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Bird ID required on its sounds, please.

Unread post by Ifubesi » Sat Apr 06, 2013 8:09 am

Hi everyone. Hope you can help me. I am a keen birder with quite a good knowledge of bird calls. However there is one bird sound I keep on hearing in bushveld regions but I just can't find the bird or even get the call on my bird call CDs. I really want to find out what it is for future atlassing work. So here is a description of what I refer to (hope my description is OK :? ):

Sound: 2 Notes following each other, repeating every few seconds (perhaps 2 birds in duet?); first note is higer pitched than second note. Together the notes give the impression of a rusty swing or seesaw, but not so metallic and high-pitched. The pitch of the call makes me think it might be some kind of cisticola.

Where heard: I hear it a lot around Mookgopong (Naboomspruit) in Limpopo. Last 2 times was at Bunde Lodge and last weekend at Nylsvley.

Habitat: Relatively dense Sweet-thorn (Acacia karoo) woodlands on clay soil and tallish grass cover.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.
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Re: Bird ID required on its sounds, please.

Unread post by wildtuinman » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:25 am

Do you perhaps have a recording of it?
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Unread post by Imax » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:31 am

have you considered some of the various calls of rufous-naped lark?

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Re: Bird ID required on its sounds, please.

Unread post by RosemaryH » Tue Apr 09, 2013 9:46 am

:lol: Hello Imax - just sent Ifubesi a link to listen to the sound of the rufous-naped lark :D :thumbs_up:
I am also now thinking of the Red-capped Robin-Chat which sounds a lot like what is being described.
Ifubesi take a listen to it :thumbs_up:
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Unread post by Imax » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:08 am

Thanks Rosemary.


Red-capped Robin-chat will be out of range for the Nylsvlei - Mookgopong area.

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Re: Bird ID required on its sounds, please.

Unread post by Ifubesi » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:54 am

Hi all. Thanks for the responses up to now. Unfortunately I did not get a recording of the call. I know the Rufous-naped Lark's call quite well. Its definitely not that, except if it has another call which is completely different. Also, the habitat I heard it in was not quite right for Rufous-naped Lark. it was more dens thorny woodland and not open grasslands.
Thanks in any case for your comments and please keep them coming :thumbs_up: .
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Unread post by wildtuinman » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:34 am

What other bird could you compare the call to?
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Unread post by Josh of the Bushveld » Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:12 pm

How about Chinspot Batis? I know their general call is 3 notes, but I very often hear them singing only the first 2.
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Unread post by Ifubesi » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:58 am

Thanks Josh-of-the-Bushveld, but its definitely not Chinspot Batis. I know its call quite well.

Wildtuinman, I am starting to consider Barred Wren-Warbler. Don't know why I didn't think of it earlier.
The only issue I have with the call and where it differs from the normal sound of the Wren-Warbler that I have heard, is that it was constantly done in paired notes of a higher note followed by a lower note. Normally the Wren-warbler's notes are all the same tone if I am not mistaken? The habitat which I have heard it also matches the Wren-Warbler.

Thanks again everyone for the replies so far.
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Re: Bird ID required on its sounds, please.

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:12 am

Funny enough, I wanted to suggest Barred Wren-Warbler from the word go.

For me the call of a Wren-Warbler is always closely associated with the ringing of an old telephone.
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Unread post by Ifubesi » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:17 am

Thanks Wildtuinman. Unless anyone else can come up with another suggestion, I am now reasonably confident that it was indeed the Barred Wren-Warbler. Next time I hear it I won't give up until I see it, to settle this once and for all.
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Re: Bird ID required on its sounds, please.

Unread post by Lonehill_Birders » Wed May 08, 2013 10:41 am

Part of the Whitethroated Robin-chat's call includes a "cricket like" sound.
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Re: Bird ID required on its sounds, please.

Unread post by Dabchick » Wed May 08, 2013 11:33 am

Very long shot...

This past summer I've heard a bird calling a few times (once Groenkloof Nature Reserve, Pretoria; about three times in the "Waterberg area" of Pretoria) during the period December to February (so possibly a summer visitor?).

Difficult to find out what it is because the call is very loud and carries quite far, and the bird only calls once or twice and then falls silent - so one cannot go and "hunt" for it.

The call is a loud whoea-whoea-whoea-whoea-whoea sound that rises in pitch and slightly in "speed" (is this the right word?) before winding down again. The sound carries far, like that of a black cuckoo for example -- and at about the same volume or maybe slightly louder (but difficult to judge).

Any ideas? :?

[edit: the two times that I was close enough the judge where the sound was coming from, it came both times from the crown of a tall tree, once a jacaranda]

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Re: Bird ID required on its sounds, please.

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed May 08, 2013 12:01 pm

Sjo Dabchick. Tough one.

Did you hear the call during day or night?

"whoea-whoea-whoea-whoea-whoea" sounds like the Thick-tailed Bushbaby calls in Skukuza, of course out of range in Pretoria. How does this call you describe compare to that of the bushbaby?
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Re: Bird ID required on its sounds, please.

Unread post by Dabchick » Wed May 08, 2013 12:23 pm

Hi wildtuinman,

Thanks for the suggestion.

No, not thick-tailed bushbaby (although a lesser bushbaby had me scrambling for the spotlight some months ago, thinking that it was a new bird in our garden :lol: -- we haven't had bushbabies in our garden until this past year -- not that I know off in any case)

Re the possible bird sound: I heard it during the day. Twice very early morning. The one at Groenkloof was at about 10:00 in the morning. And once late afternoon. And it is more "melodious" than that of the bushbaby :| with no "creaking" in the voice (if that makes sense!). Hopefully I will one day be in the right place and right time to see the creature making the noise :lol:


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