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Re: ID needed

Unread post by RosemaryH » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:37 am

Nice picture :thumbs_up: I am sure someone will be able to help you with an ID Soukous!
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:25 am

Not that I have ever seen a young one or a photo of one, but a young Karoo Chat is probably a good guess.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:32 am

Must say, I am quite surprised to see how very few photos there are of Karoo Chat out there... Very interesting.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by DotDan » Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:00 pm

Time for a Karoo Camp trip so that we can rectify that.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Soukous » Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:41 pm

It does not look like a Karoo Chat to me.
i have not been able to find any good images of juveniles but the plumage does not resemble the adult bird at all.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:04 pm

Soukous wrote:It does not look like a Karoo Chat to me.
i have not been able to find any good images of juveniles but the plumage does not resemble the adult bird at all.


Karoo Chat Juv according to Roberts - Spotted buff above, scaled blackish below

Familiar chat Juv according to Roberts - Scaly appearance, buff above

Faansie's LBJ book does not really say much about the young ones of these species.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:06 pm

wildtuinman wrote:Must say, I am quite surprised to see how very few photos there are of Karoo Chat out there... Very interesting.


Is this one? Karoo NP Jan 2015

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DotDan wrote:Time for a Karoo Camp trip so that we can rectify that.


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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:32 am

Looks good, Karin! :thumbs_up:

I agree Daan! :cam:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Soukous » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:10 pm

So far the choice seems to be between juvenile Karoo Chat and juvenile Familiar Chat.

The cheek marking favour the familiar chat, except that in my guide books the juvenile does not have those marking, only the adult. Plumage is also shown as much more 'spotty' than in my photo.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Soukous » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:45 pm

Please discard my previous post. Having found some other photos online I now think this is probably a juvenile Ant Eating Chat.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:32 pm

Soukous wrote:Please discard my previous post. Having found some other photos online I now think this is probably a juvenile Ant Eating Chat.


I would imagine the tail to be too long for Ant-eating Chat.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:46 pm

Are there any other photos of this bird?

I think the clue lies in the tail more than likely.
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