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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:06 pm

wildtuinman wrote:Must say, I am quite surprised to see how very few photos there are of Karoo Chat out there... Very interesting.


Is this one? Karoo NP Jan 2015

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DotDan wrote:Time for a Karoo Camp trip so that we can rectify that.


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Unread post by wildtuinman » Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:32 am

Looks good, Karin! :thumbs_up:

I agree Daan! :cam:
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Unread post by Soukous » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:10 pm

So far the choice seems to be between juvenile Karoo Chat and juvenile Familiar Chat.

The cheek marking favour the familiar chat, except that in my guide books the juvenile does not have those marking, only the adult. Plumage is also shown as much more 'spotty' than in my photo.

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Unread post by Soukous » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:45 pm

Please discard my previous post. Having found some other photos online I now think this is probably a juvenile Ant Eating Chat.

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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:32 pm

Soukous wrote:Please discard my previous post. Having found some other photos online I now think this is probably a juvenile Ant Eating Chat.


I would imagine the tail to be too long for Ant-eating Chat.
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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Mar 09, 2017 2:46 pm

Are there any other photos of this bird?

I think the clue lies in the tail more than likely.
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Unread post by Karin Mitton » Sat Apr 15, 2017 7:03 pm

Is this a Mosque swallow?
Tshokwane this week.

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Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed Apr 19, 2017 7:15 am

Nice one Karin!
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Unread post by Karin Mitton » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:09 am

This one confounds me - Seen between Pafuri and Punda, closer to Pafuri
ImageIMG_8586xxx by Karin Mitton, on Flickr

ImageIMG_8588xxx by Karin Mitton, on Flickr

Apologies for the grainy pics, but the bird was very far and are heavily cropped. Could this be a male White-bellied sunbird in transitional plumage?

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Unread post by barryels » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:23 am

Karin Mitton,

My take on your bird is an immature variable Sunbird.
Some first-year birds have a blackish throat patch and yellowish underparts.
Tail blackish, tips of outer rectrices edged white.
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Unread post by Karin Mitton » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:28 am

barryels wrote:Karin Mitton,

My take on your bird is an immature variable Sunbird.
Some first-year birds have a blackish throat patch and yellowish underparts.
Tail blackish, tips of outer rectrices edged white.


Barry, I was hoping for that, but the last record of this bird was years ago according to the new Birds of the KNP book!

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Unread post by barryels » Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:34 am

Karin, birds fly :hmz: and according to the site list of Robert's, it is quite possible.

Lucky for us we have experts on the forums that will be able to confirm or give us the correct ID :thumbs_up:.
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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:18 am

Look very carefully at the gape. ;-)

There is a hint of yellow, pointing to a young bird.

The black throat and breast is an additional clue.
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Unread post by wildtuinman » Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:28 am

ps: Black will turn to red.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:06 am

wildtuinman wrote:ps: Black will turn to red.


Immature Scarlet-chested sunbird?


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