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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by pnm » Wed Dec 08, 2010 8:49 pm

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Can one of the experts help me here, please. Taken at about noon three days ago on a fruit farm in Paarl. It seemed too big for a juvenile Cape Robin-Chat and the shape and colour bears no relation to any juvenile Olive Thrush I have seen. The bird was silent and showed no tell-tale bobbong or movements. can anyone help, please?

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Barcud » Fri Dec 10, 2010 1:19 pm

Hi Pete,

I would go for Juv. Cape Robin-chat as well. Recently fledged birds are generally slightly larger (weight wise) than the adults when they first leave the nest.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by LaeveldLeeu » Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:33 am

Please ID.
Is this a juvenile something too? There were 2 and this was seen near a dam outside White River in the plantations undergrowth.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by DotDan » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:19 pm

Hi there LaeveldLeeu

Very difficult to ID juv Robin-Chats as most of them look exactly the same at that stage.

Based on habitat I would reckon you are looking at either a Juv Cape Robin-chat or White Browed Robin-Chat but really difficult to tell which one.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by LaeveldLeeu » Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:24 pm

Thanks for the reply. I agree with the Robin Chat.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Mon Jan 17, 2011 6:36 pm

Cape robin-chat. I think WBRC would have been showing some of the white wing bar even at this stage... But then again, I don't know the difference between a juvenile stonechat and a juvenile fiscal flycatcher... :redface:
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Guinea Pig » Mon Jan 17, 2011 7:18 pm

Johan van Rensburg wrote: But then again, I don't know the difference between a juvenile stonechat and a juvenile fiscal flycatcher... :redface:


:lol: That was rather funny....
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Re: Robin-Chat, Cape

Unread post by Charming1 » Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:38 pm

Excellent pics :clap: and thank you for the information.

We have been observing a nest since New Years Day. First one egg, then two. Both hatched a week ago. Have been eagerly awaiting some form of ID as the Red Chested Cuckoo disappeared on the 3rd January and hasn't been back. Looking at the pics above, we have 2 of them (not cuckoo orphans). Now that I have been able to log on again, I will try and download some pics of their growth spurt. The Mom is very attentive and allows us to check the nest every evening whilst watching us from about a metre away. The nest is in an azalea bush.

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Re: Robin-Chat, Cape

Unread post by arks » Fri Feb 18, 2011 2:59 pm

Johan van Rensburg wrote:Although the Cape robin-chat is not the only specie that uses a poo management system to safeguard their nests against predators, this was the first opportunity I had to record this strategy at its origin and most critical location… in the nest! This also serves to keep the nest dry and clean and reduces exposure to pathogens and parasites.

Interesting about this poo management system, JvR, because I observed the same with American robins that raised four chicks on my back porch last May. It was a behaviour that I was not previously aware of.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by mel123 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 3:57 pm

I'd like to ask the experts some help with a bird spotted in my garden in Potchefstroom yesterday.
I suspect it is a juvenile, and my bird books are a bit shy on good descriptions or photo's or sketches of robin-chats, which is what I suspect it is. There were two of them, and one had more extensive orange on the outer tail feathers, right up to the tip, without a black tip on them as is described for the Familiar chat.
It hopped about in some trees, lifting it's tail almost like a prinia, at times. It didn't make a sound.
The giss makes me think robin-chat. I do have adult Cape robin-chats and Karoo Thrushes in the garden. I think its too slender to be a thrush.
I suspect a juvenile Cape robin-chat, but as I said, I lack a good description or image of a juvenile. I was unable to get a photograph of the front (it's a bit skittish), but can tell you it looks mottled grey, orange and faint white spots, just like on the flanks.
I considered Familiar chat, because of the orange tail feathers, but I didn't see any wing flicking at all and I would expect to?

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Is it a juvenile Cape robin-chat or maybe something else?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:41 pm

Your logic pointing to the Cape robin-chat is spot-on, mel123
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Re: Robin-Chat, Cape

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Re: Robin-Chat, Cape

Unread post by granjan » Sat Feb 23, 2013 10:47 pm

Such a pretty little bird!

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Sun Aug 17, 2014 1:43 pm

This one has me stumped. I have looked up what I thought it could be, and more, but am still at a loss.

My wife saw it yesterday at Strandfontein yesterday and it is in a photo sequence after a Cape robin chat, of which I thought it could be the juvenile or sub adult, but it seems not the case.

This is the only pic she has and if I was there I would have observed it and asked her to take more pics. Serves her right for going birding while I am earning my keep.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Johan van Rensburg » Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:32 pm

The bird is looking away, but you can see the white eyebrow. Also look at the tail, orange breast and orange vent on a grey belly. To my mind it is probably the same bird you have earlier in the sequence of shots...
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