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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Lizet Grobbelaar » Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:45 pm

Rookie,
#9 Familiar Chat, note the rufous on the rump and ear coverts

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Rookie » Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:01 pm

Wow, Thanks Lizet!

That gives me couple of lifers! :dance: :dance:

The size of the Familiar Chat in the last photo had me confused, but they were obviously fluffed against the cold (-3 °C) and the only other ones I had seen were standing straight up doing the "wing twitching" bit.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by arks » Wed Sep 05, 2012 1:09 am

This one definitely has me puzzled :? I think that it must be a chat (or perhaps a flycatcher?), perhaps the sicklewinged chat or a very pale familiar chat? Seen in the Olifantsbos area of Cape Point on 19 June 2012.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:12 am

Arks, I'll risk a guess at Familiar Chat.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by DotDan » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:30 am

wildtuinman wrote:Arks, I'll risk a guess at Familiar Chat.



I second that guess

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by adrianp » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:39 am

I'd call it a misty chat based on the picture :lol:

But I think Dirk is correct.

The clue is that the 4 confusing species, karoo, familiar, trac trac and sickle winged can be sorted out as follows:

White on the tail= karoo (outer tail only) and tractrac (rump and outer tail)

Tail with rufus/orange/rusty pink = familiar (rump and outer tail) and sickle winged (entirely pale rust pink with black triangle on tip)

I would say that the rufus orange is just visible on the side of the tail.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by arks » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:56 pm

Thanks WTM and DD, and especially to adrianp for the detailed analysis :thumbs_up:
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Re: Chat, familiar

Unread post by arks » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:44 am

Grootkolk, 2 November 2012

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Thu Apr 18, 2013 4:37 pm

Let's see what the other guy's (& dolls) say.

Familiar chat - not sure here.

The colouration makes me doubt.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by DotDan » Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:37 am

BB is correct with the Familiar Chat ID taken at Twee Rivieren. Rufous ear patch and orange rump.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by adrianp » Fri Apr 19, 2013 9:39 am

Panekoek wrote:
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Definitely a familiar chat, BUT THAT EGG IS MASSIVE :sup: :big_eyes:

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by naomi c » Fri May 31, 2013 8:55 am

Pic taken in Mapungubwe beginning of January this year (western section).

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Fri May 31, 2013 9:23 am

It resembles a chat. Young Familiar Chat perhaps looking at the ear coverts and rufous upper tail?
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by DotDan » Fri May 31, 2013 1:36 pm

Ja I agree with you WTM.

The only other thing it resembles is young Cape Robin-Chat... but the ear coverts I think is a definite sign of Familiar Chat.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by naomi c » Fri May 31, 2013 2:16 pm

Thanks guys! :thumbs_up:


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