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Unread post by wildtuinman » Mon Oct 06, 2008 7:03 am

Falconry4ever wrote:Hi there.
I saw it in Zimbabwe's eastern lowveld during the April/May 2008 next to a small river.


Ok that then takes away:

Chirping Cisticola (possibly @ Vic Falls)
Luapula Cisticola (possibly @ Vic Falls)

I remember the bird in question had a rufous cap, so that also takes the following out of the equation:

Croaking Cisticola
Red-faced Cisticola

and leaves us with:

Tinkling Cisticola
Rattling Cisticola
Wailing Cisticola (eastern Zimbabwe)
Levaillant's Cisticola
Rufous-winged Cisticola (south eastern Zimbabwe)
Singing Cisticola (Eastern Zimbabwe)
Lazy Cisticola
Croaking Cisticola
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:08 pm

The bill has a pinkish base.

That rules out Singing and Tinkling Cisticolas with their all dark bills.

We are left with at this stage:

Rattling Cisticola
Wailing Cisticola (eastern Zimbabwe)
Levaillant's Cisticola
Rufous-winged Cisticola (south eastern Zimbabwe)
Lazy Cisticola
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:16 pm

Levaillant's and Rufous-winged Cisticolas have dark backs, so they are ruled out as well.

Rattling Cisticola
Wailing Cisticola (eastern Zimbabwe)
Lazy Cisticola
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by JoelR » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:34 pm

wildtuinman wrote:The bill has a pinkish base.

That rules out Singing and Tinkling Cisticolas with their all dark bills.

We are left with at this stage:

Rattling Cisticola
Wailing Cisticola (eastern Zimbabwe)
Levaillant's Cisticola
Rufous-winged Cisticola (south eastern Zimbabwe)
Lazy Cisticola
Croaking Cisticola

I like your systematic approach to the cisticolas.
- I think the bird shows too much rufous for Rattling.
- Bird was seen in Lowveld, which makes Wailing unlikely, although ID differences are tough to pinpoint.
- Eyebrow seems to extend not far enough for Levaillant's and colours a bit faded but not enough to rule it out.
- Tail seems rufous which rules Rufous-winged out, because it has a greyish tail.
- Lazy looks like a prinia. This one doesn't.
- You already discarded Croaking. No rufous crown.

For me Croaking, Lazy and Rufous-winged can be discarded. If you agree, that leaves us with:
Rattling
Wailing
Levaillant's

I would vote Wailing if the would have been in the (Zim) highlands...

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:38 pm

I've noticed now that I was a little bit fast on letting Red-Faced Cisticola out so quickly and I will bring it back into equation at this point.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:45 pm

Both Rattling and Wailing show some prominent sign of markings on the back.

I agree that the Lazy Cisticola is more Prinia looking.

This leaves me with Red-Faced Cisticola.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by JoelR » Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:53 pm

wildtuinman wrote:Both Rattling and Wailing show some prominent sign of markings on the back.

I agree that the Lazy Cisticola is more Prinia looking.

This leaves me with Red-Faced Cisticola.

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Red-faced Cisticola is a very dull bird, which hardly shows any rufous. This simply can't be a Red-faced C. It's either an out-of-place Wailing, a very pale (moulting?) Levaillant's or a rather rufous Rattling. I will go with the latter (Rattling) unless Falconryetc. confesses he saw it a bit higher up (Wailing).

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed Oct 08, 2008 1:03 pm

I don't think that the back is grey enough for Red-Faced Cisticola. The face is also too dull colored.

I will go with Rattling Cisticola, probably a young bird with no distinct markings on the back, but there are signs of markings and a hint of grey.

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Unread post by Kwando » Sat Nov 15, 2008 11:05 am

Hi all,

We are having some difficulty with this little one, at a first glance we thought it was a prinia but not too sure now. Saw it this morning just outside Letata Rest Camp, it's been a bit wet here this morning, light drizzle. struggling a little with 3G signal, so I will only be on again tonight. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by JoelR » Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:50 pm

It's a cisticola. My guess would be Rattling Cisticola.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread post by Kwando » Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:13 pm

Ah, that does sound right now that I listen to the sound again on my Roberts software... Thank you very much.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by Anja » Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:39 pm

Has anyone an idea what kind of bird this is? Seen near Pretoriuskop in september.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by JoelR » Wed Nov 19, 2008 8:18 am

Possibly a Rattling Cisticola.

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Unread post by arks » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:23 am

These two, the first seen in the Parfuri area and the second near Punda Maria, both on 17 October 2008, have me stumped :? I think they both must be either larks or pipits, but which I can't work out ... or perhaps I'm well off the mark :roll:

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by Johann » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:42 am

Looks like Rattling Cisticola to me.
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