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Identification Help - LBJs

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Jesscan1 » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:45 pm

Hello everyone

Can someone please help me identify the following 4 birds?

1. ?

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2. Is this picture below a Fawn-coloured Lark?

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3. ?

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4. Is this picture below a Spike-heeled Lark?

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Thanks so much, I really appreciate your help.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby arks » Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:18 pm

Jessca1, can you please include where and when you saw these birds?
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Karin Mitton » Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:12 am

I think you are right about 4. I also want to say there is a rufous-naped lark in your collection. But the experts must help!

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Jesscan1 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:12 pm

Hi arks

All the pics were taken at Augrabie Falls National Park on 17 September 2015.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Jesscan1 » Sun Nov 01, 2015 7:26 pm

I managed to ID the birds that I requested ID on (confirmed by an ornithologist) and No 1, 3 and 4 are Spike-heeled Larks and No 2 is a Fawn-coloured Lark.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby salamanda » Mon Nov 02, 2015 8:37 am

Shot Jessican! Lovely clear pics - useful for ID purposes for many of us i should think!

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Guinea Pig » Mon Nov 02, 2015 2:38 pm

I'm having Pipit troubles. :lol:

Photographed in Bontebok NP. 2 individual birds but they were together.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Albert » Mon Nov 02, 2015 3:41 pm

In Bontebok NP there are only 3 possibilities

African Pipit
Plain-backed Pipit
Long-billed Pipit.

I'd personally discount African (they appear IMHO to be quite small and slender), so that leaves Plain-backed and Long-billed. Looking at the bill and the diffuse streaking it seems most likely to be a Long-billed Pipit.
So I'll stick out my neck.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Guinea Pig » Mon Nov 02, 2015 4:01 pm

Well, I'm happy to stick to that, Albert. We used the birdlist for Bontebok from Roberts Multimedia Guide and with that we decided it was most likely a Long-billed Pipit. We actually entered it on our personal list as one. So unless anybody else disagrees, it seems we should've trusted our instincts a little more.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Guinea Pig » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:25 pm

Looking at the spotted breast, I'm leaning towards a Cloud Cisticola. :hmz: Bontebok NP

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby arks » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:42 pm

GP, my first thought was Karoo prinia. I think that the tail is too long for the cisticola? But I'm NO expert (tho I do see a lot of Karoo prinias in the Cape)!
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Guinea Pig » Thu Nov 12, 2015 11:45 pm

I thought so too and never bothered with it again until now. A Karoo Prinia has no stripes on the head, as far as I could find?

This is a Karoo Prinia we saw in Simonstad:

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Guinea Pig » Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:35 am

Concensus on Facebook - it's a Cisticola, likely a Grey-backed.

I hate LBJ's! :wall: :lol:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Tdgraves » Sat Nov 28, 2015 7:44 pm

Can anyone help me with this? I have been looking through my books all afternoon and getting nowhere.....taken in Welgevonden in September

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Karin Mitton » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:17 pm

Can you crop the photo a bit?
Want to say African Stone chat female or sub-adult?


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