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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by hilda » Thu Apr 21, 2016 3:10 am

The Lazy Cisticola's mantle is grey-brown and almost plain, and the Levaillant's Cisticola has blackish upper parts with grey or buff feather edges. If you have a picture of this bird where you can see the upper parts, the distinction between Lazy and Levaillant's should not be too difficult I think. But I am no expert, I really hope one of our experts will be able to help you pnm. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by pnm » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:13 am

Thanks, Hilda! I will have a good look tonight. (Only tonight as we have just relocated and I am taken up doing unnecessary things like food,beds, etc instead of paying attention to birds

I have about ten photos of this bird and I cannot get ONE to load on to the forum. Under habits perhaps we should put: Shy.!
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by wildtuinman » Wed May 18, 2016 7:41 am

pnm wrote:Hi all

I took these pics in Kruger at midday in February this year. I have searched the books and scratched my head and I say Lazy Cisticola but my son says Levailants. Can anyone help me with some pointers?

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Hi Pete,
I cannot see your photos, but I can say that Levaillant's Cisticola shouldn't occur in Kruger, that would be very rare! The only other bird one could confuse it with is Rufous-winged Cisticola.

Where in Kruger did you take the photos?
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by pnm » Fri May 20, 2016 8:00 pm

Hi Wildtuinman

Sorry about the delay but moving house and then a crashed computer is not doing my birding any good. Also I seem unable to put pics on this page having succeeded once before! I will try again this weekend. I have numerous pics of the bird and will try to choose the best display of the bird. As I type this the Fierynecked nightjar has just finished calling outside. Glorious.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by elpaco » Sun May 22, 2016 2:18 pm

Hi all,

I am trying to put some order in my photos.
I came across this one with a doubt on the ID. any help appreciated please .

I am thinking of a female Shaft tailed whydah (or a non breeding red billed quelea but the bill looks too bright to me, it is supposed to be dull in my book)

thanks for your help

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by isinkwe » Mon May 23, 2016 10:45 pm

Hi Elpaco
It appears to have a reddish eye ring on your photograph, which if that is the case leads me towards a Red billed Quelea

That's my opinion anyway. :redface:

I don't trust myself yet , :redface: so lets hope one of the experts pops in here soon, so we can both learn. Have you ever tried the bird quizzes here on the forum Elpaco ? Total fun that is :thumbs_up: :D

Hilda , can you put a link in here for Elpaco please. :D :D :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by hilda » Tue May 24, 2016 8:17 am

It seems that my post from yesterday has disappeared into the cyber space again elpaco. I was also suggesting female Red-billed Quelea, but hoping one of the experts could confirm or lead us in the right direction. :thumbs_up:

@ isinkwe: By all means isinkwe, but if I am not mistaken, elpaco has already participated in the Duckling Challenge. Anyway, here are the links:

Bird ID Challenges 2016 (Bi-weekly)

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Hope to see you participating in both challenges elpaco! :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by elpaco » Tue May 24, 2016 2:39 pm

Thanks isinkwe and hilda.

I have already seen the challenges, thanks, will try to participate here and now
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by hilda » Tue May 24, 2016 4:29 pm

Wonderful elpaco! Enjoy! :clap: :clap:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by pnm » Tue May 24, 2016 9:34 pm

Hello all and esp Hilda and Wildtuinman

This is the fifth try tonight to get the pics posted. I am not giving up so here goes.

Hilda and Wildtuinman (but anyone can respond) - here is the photo of the Cisticola I took midday in February near Skukuza. Is it a Lazy?

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who was delighted to find a juv Black Crake in his garden.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by hilda » Wed May 25, 2016 3:18 am

Hi Pete, I am afraid I can not be much of a help to you in bird identifications, I am a novice as far as this is concerned. :D

However, I don't think this is a Lazy Cisticola, based on the fact that the Lazy Cisticola has a dull white well-defined supercilium, which I can not see on this little bird. Lazy Cisticola's bill is dark horn with a pinkish base, which is not the case with this bird. One cannot see this bird's back or tail properly, which makes it more difficult to ID. I would rather say it is a Rattling Cisticola. :hmz:

I'm sure Wildtuinman and/or DotDan, and maybe even Johan van Rensburg will soon respond here, and they will definitely be able to ID it correctly. :thumbs_up:

Congratulations on finding a juvenile Black Crake in your garden! :dance: :dance:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by DotDan » Wed May 25, 2016 8:09 am

I would agree with Rattling. They love sitting on top branches and scream their lungs out.


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