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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by arks » Fri Aug 05, 2016 1:26 am

I saw this weaver at Maloustwa hide in Mapungubwe in late April 2016. My best guess is perhaps a female lesser masked weaver?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by arks » Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:02 am

Anyone??? :pray:

arks wrote:I saw this weaver at Maloustwa hide in Mapungubwe in late April 2016. My best guess is perhaps a female lesser masked weaver?

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Mon Aug 15, 2016 7:17 am

A weaver of some sots? :hmz: :hmz:

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by salamanda » Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:19 am

I would also think Southern Masked Weaver.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by hilda » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:51 am

I would also go for Lesser Masked-Weaver, non-breeding male or female. :hmz:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by arks » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:18 pm

Thanks Karin, salamanda and hilda :gflower:

I think that salamanda is correct and it's a southern masked weaver rather than a lesser masked weaver, since upon looking more closely, the bird would seem to have a red rather than a white eye.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by arks » Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:43 pm

Here are three more that I need some ID help with, all seen at Mapungubwe in late April 2016.

1. Is this one a female or nonbreeding male lesser masker weaver?
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2. Is this a yellowthroated petronia?
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3. I know it's out of range, but with that white throat patch, could this be a northern greyheaded sparrow?
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by hilda » Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:31 pm

As part of my practice I'll give it a try Arks:

The first one's eye is very clear on this photo, and I would agree with female or nonbreeding male lesser masker weaver.
The second one looks like a Streaky-headed Seedeater? The Yellow-throated Petronia's legs are too dark I think.
The third one I would say is a Southern Grey-headed Sparrow, because of the white wingbar which is faintly visible, if not my imagination.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by Ladybirder » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:44 pm

First photo Lesser Masked weaver
Second Lark-like Bunting Also streaked crown, well marked back facial markings
Third Southern Grey headed Sparrow have a white throat in non breeding

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by arks » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:51 pm

Many thanks hilda and LB :gflower:

I'd not thought of larklike bunting :redface: and I didn't know that the nonbreeding southern greyheaded sparrow has a white throat. Thanks for the help and useful information. That's what's so great about these ID threads, I learn new things here all the time :dance: and I follow the ID threads even when I'm not posting in them.
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Unread post by roaneric » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:37 pm

Hi Everyone

I'm a newbie in birding and decided to make my first bird list. I went through all the bird pics I took the last 10 years and my list coming on nicely. I just have trouble ID some of the birds (either the pics are not that good or I can't seem to ID them correctly) so I need help please. Here is my LBJ pics I have trouble with

I changed the lightning and zoomed in so you can see better on some of the photos

Bird 1 Yellow-streaked greenbul??? (July, north krugerpark)
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Bird 2 Ashy flycatcher?? July, south Krugerpark)
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Bird 3 Kalahari scrub-robin?? (July, South Krugerpark)
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Bird 4 Some kind of weaver? Maybe brown-throated weaver??? (May, Krugerpark)
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Bird 5 no idea (Aug, krugerpark)
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by arks » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:58 pm

Roaneric, could you please tell us where and when you saw each of these birds? ID is difficult to impossible without that essential time and place information.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by barryels » Wed Aug 31, 2016 7:25 am

Dear roaneric,

My take on your birds are as follows:

1. Yellow-bellied Greenbul: Forehead to upper tail coverts olive green, slightly browner on crown, where feathers elongated into shaggy crest. Tail feathers, brown above, pale yellow below. Eyes brown, red-brown or bright red; eye ring white, broadest above eye.

2.Marico Flycatcher: Forehead, crown and nape uniform pale brown. Cheeks and lores pale ochre-brown. Underparts uniformly off-white, with faint buff wash. Flanks pale grey-brown. Bill black. Eyes dark brown.

3. Kalahari Scrub-robin: Supercilium whitish and broad; loral stripe black, extending as stripe behind eye. Ear coverts sandy brown. The tail is a giveaway with its chestnut-orange, rectrices with broad, blackish-brown subterminal bands and white tips

4. Cape Weaver: Upper parts dull olive-brown, crown and mantle with faint streaking. Tail olive-brown. Wings brown, coverts with narrow greenish-yellow edges. Chin and throat creamy, with yellowish wash.

5. House sparrow: Crown and nape grey, sides of nape and neck chestnut. Lores black, extending onto frons and behind eye as narrow eye stripe. Cheeks and small spot above and behind eye whitish. Mantle and back buffy brown, with blackish feather centres forming distinct rows of streaks.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread post by roaneric » Wed Aug 31, 2016 8:11 am

Thank you so much Barry. :gflower: That makes 3 new additions to my list. List is now at 146 :dance:
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