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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by hilda » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:09 pm

Dear Birders,
Please take note that this topic is regularly “cleaned” by moving the posts of a specific bird that has been positively ID-ed to the specific bird topic for all to use when trying to ID their bird sightings, and also to read all the interesting discussions about the birds while ID-ing them.
Should it be impossible for anybody to give a positive ID for a bird for some reason or another, it will be taken out, because it serves no purpose.
Go to Index to Birds Index to Birds and find the topic of the bird you are looking for.
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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by francoisd » Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:03 am

Although many of them are large raptors can be tricky to identify especially the brown ones and the young ones. If you have a photo of a raptore which you battle to identify, this is the place to post it.

Remember only Raptors here. If you need a LBJ identified go here and for all other birds you can go here.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by normana53 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:15 pm

I just want to thank all of the forumites who post their photos of Raptors, and all of the experts and experienced birders who take the time to assist in the identification of these wonderful airborne predators. You have helped my SO and I to become better at identification, and have provided a lot of enjoyment during the major part of the year when we can't be in a South African paradise. Keep up the great work that you all do! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Unread post by Micetta » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:08 pm

This is a great site for IDing birds!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Bokmakieriekie » Mon May 09, 2011 9:12 pm

I recently attended a public lecture at the National Zoo, Boom Street, Pretoria, on this magnificent group of birds. The topic was 'Birds of Prey: their identification and behaviour' and the presenter was Ulrich Oberprieler. This lecture informed us on how to differentiate between the various species, how to get to know the specific groups, their habitat preferences and interesting behaviours. It was such an excellent lecture, well presented, outstanding photos, logical and systematic approach with a very good touch of humor. Not a moment of boredom. (An in-depth 3-day course is planned in June / July 2011)

The lecture was followed by a most enjoyable bring and braai, with them supplying fires, tables and chairs - for only R50.00 per person at the time - a fantastic outing in the middle of a city with the calls nocturnal animals and the sight of sleeping penguins around one. Highly recommended.
If you are not living in, or close to, Pretoria, take heart - buy Ulrich's raptor identification guide - The raptor guide of Southern Africa, Authors: Burger Cillie; Ulrich Oberprieler (and/or the Bird guide of Southern Africa by : B. Cillie and U. Oberprieler) available at leading bookstores or http://www.kalahari.net

For information on future lectures contact: Tel: 012 339 2700 / e-mail: info@nzg.ac.za,
or Rubeena Sampson on Tel: 012 339 2775 / e-mail: rubeena@nzg.ac.za.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by roaneric » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:14 pm

Hi Everyone

I'm a newbie in birding and decided to make my first bird list. I went through all the bird pics I took the last 10 years and my list coming on nicely. I just have trouble ID some of the birds (either the pics are not that good or I can't seem to ID them correctly) so I need help please. Here is my raptor pics I have trouble with

I changed the lightning and zoomed in so you can see better on some of the photos

Bird 1 I thought maybe a Ovambo sparrowhawk or southern pale chanting goshawk? (Aug, Krugerpark)
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Bird 2 Is it a Tawny eagle? (October, Krugerpark)
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Bird 3 Maybe a juv. dark chanting goshawk? (May, Krugerpark)
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Bird 4 no idea (August, Krugerpark)
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Bird 5 Brown snake eagle? (October, Krugerpark)
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Bird 6 This was a huge eagle. (August , Krugerpark)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by roaneric » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:14 pm

Bird 7 No idea but I zoomed in with my super zoom camera and this was also a huge eagle (August, Krugerpark)
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Bird 8 Is this maybe a juv.Egyptian vulture (August, Krugerpark)
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Bird 9 The first few pics was zoomed in 24x and still it was a huge eagle. Could it be a juv. crowned eagle? (May 4th, Krugerpark)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by roaneric » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:23 pm

Bird 10 (August 24 th, Krugerpark)
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Bird 11 Some sort of falcon? (March 3rd, Krugerpark)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by arks » Tue Aug 30, 2016 12:57 pm

Roaneric, could you please tell us where and when you saw each of these birds? ID is difficult to impossible without that essential time and place information.
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Unread post by roaneric » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:36 pm

Hi Arks. I will do my best. Be right back
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by DotDan » Tue Aug 30, 2016 2:21 pm

Hi there Roaneric

I will try and help as best I can :)

Bird 1 - Dark Chanting Goshawk
Bird 2- Agree with Tawny Eagle
Bird 3 -Juvenile Gabar Goshawk (juveniles tend to be bigger than adults)
Bird 4 - African Fish-Eagle (Still in transition into adult plumage)
Bird 5 - Tawny Eagle
Bird 6 - Beauty of a Tawny Eagle
Bird 7 - Looks to me like a Juvenile African Harrier-Hawk. That plumage with the barred tail, only thing it can be.
Bird 8 - Looks like a Hooded Vulture
Bird 9 - Juvenile Martial Eagle
Bird 10 - Think Steppe (Common) Buzzard is a safe call here
Bird 11 - Amur Falcon

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by roaneric » Tue Aug 30, 2016 6:09 pm

Thanks for the ID DotDan :clap:

My list is now about 143 so I'm happy to add a few new species to the list.

I was wondering about number 8. It confuses me that it has dark feathers on his head. In my bird book the hooded vultures don't have such dark feathers on their heads? Or is my pictures or photos misleading?
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Unread post by Bush Baptist » Wed Aug 31, 2016 9:05 pm

I think Danny has got them all spot on. The vulture could well be juvenile.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by sandeep » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:38 pm

Hi Dot Dan/ Roaneric -

1) would you find Steppe Buzzards in Kruger in August??
2) Bird 3 - Looks like a juvenile dark chanting goshawk to me. Any specific reason why you would id as a juvenile gabar??

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:35 pm

I differ from Daan with 3 birds.

Bird 1 - Dark Chanting Goshawk
Bird 2- Agree with Tawny Eagle
Bird 3 -Juvenile Dark Chanting Goshawk
Bird 4 - African Fish-Eagle (Still in transition into adult plumage)
Bird 5 - Tawny Eagle
Bird 6 - Beauty of a Tawny Eagle
Bird 7 - Martial Eagle
Bird 8 - Looks like a Hooded Vulture
Bird 9 - Juvenile Martial Eagle
Bird 10 - African Hawk-Eagle
Bird 11 - Amur Falco
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