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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby wingman » Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:46 pm

Hi Jaytea
with this eagle compare it to the steppe and pay special attention to the gape where it ends in relation to the eye, centre, forward or behind, with some of the eagles they are so similar these small things make a difference.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby wildtuinman » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:21 am

Jaytea's bird looks like a Lesser Spotted Eagle to me.

Jaytea, do you have any other photos of this bird? Especially in flight?
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby wingman » Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:43 am

Hi WTM
could you give us some direction on this ID, I just saw the gape was wrong, didnt have any books with me. some guidance from a pro would be appreciated
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Ladybirder » Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:42 am

Wildtuinman I do agree with you, Lesser Spotted eagle, The thin looking legs, Like a stove pipe jean, but feathered to the toes.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby sandeep » Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:36 pm

The first picture does look like a LSE with the tight feathering on the legs.

Is the second pic of the same bird?? The length of the gape would indicate Steppe eagle

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby sandeep » Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:22 pm

Seen near Satara in Feb 2015. Female Pallid Harrier...????

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby wildtuinman » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:15 am

I am far from being a pro. :lol:

The gape on eagles are very misleading and I really won't bet any money on it to clinch an id.

Steppe Eagle is not a common bird in SA and most of the birds which do occur here are immature birds of a lighter brown (similar to the nominate race of Tawny Eagle) complexion.

The feathers on the tarsi also seems very stove-like as mentioned by others already. Steppe Eagles show more baggier leggings at rest.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby sandeep » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:51 am

Totally agree on the gape being misleading. There are 2 pics and if these are of different birds, then the first one clearly shows the tight feathers which does point to LSE. However for the 2nd pic where the bird is at rest, the legs are really not visible :hmz: and the gape is definitely long and more fleshy at the end, which would point to Steppe Eagle. If however both pics are of the same bird, then LSE would probably be a safer guess....

Any views on the pics I posted?? Would female pallid harrier be correct??

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby wildtuinman » Wed Aug 12, 2015 10:01 am

Hi Sandeep, from what I can see, the crescent does look rather bold, which would point to a Pallid Harrier.

I find it fascinating that the bird is perched in a tree! :D
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby sandeep » Wed Aug 12, 2015 12:21 pm

Thanks WTM. Good observation of the harrier on the tree :thumbs_up: :D

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Unread postby jaytea » Thu Aug 13, 2015 7:42 am

Thanks everyone for the input of my raptors - I will search this weekend for some more photos of them! They were 2 different sightings....
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby jaytea » Sun Aug 16, 2015 2:09 am

I'm not sure where my original post is... but I'm guessing it got "cleaned" into another thread...

Unfortunately I don't have either of these birds in flight. It was a really rainy day and there were lots of raptors still sitting in trees and reluctant to move... I'm not sure why I didn't snap another of the eagle that is taking off - my guess was that the rain got in my way... and I was renting a lens.....

Here is the one bird again... the lesser spotted eagle????

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And here is the other...... another LSE???

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby hilda » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:00 am

jaytea wrote:I'm not sure where my original post is... but I'm guessing it got "cleaned" into another thread..


Have a look at pages 1 and 2 jaytea, there are other posts of yours.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby jaytea » Sun Aug 16, 2015 6:21 pm

hilda wrote:
jaytea wrote:I'm not sure where my original post is... but I'm guessing it got "cleaned" into another thread..


Have a look at pages 1 and 2 jaytea, there are other posts of yours.


Thanks Hilda - but that was another much older photo of a raptor that I posted.... I still don't see my original post of these eagles! :shock:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby hilda » Mon Aug 17, 2015 4:51 am

Jaytea, the only other post of your eagles that I found on the list that I am still busy moving to the specific eagle topics after they were ID-ed, (this one was not positively ID-ed yet, that's why it had to be moved back the this thread), was posted on 1 August. If you are looking for an earlier post, it could have been ID-ed previously and moved to the specific kind of eagle's topic. Unfortunately I will never be able to remember whose pictures were moved where after they were positively ID-ed. :thumbs_up:
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