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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:49 pm

Do you have other photos of it?
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:40 pm

wildtuinman wrote:Do you have other photos of it?


They are all more or less similar, but here are two more.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by roaneric » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:32 pm

Hi everyone

I just returned form south africa and have difficulty identifying some of my birds. Can you bird experts please help? Some are not the best quality pics, but I hope you can make out what they are. :pray:



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this was some kind of small raptor. Maybe a hawk or kite? (I don't have pics of birds in flight with me)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Sat Nov 11, 2017 6:49 pm

I'll try again
1 & 5 Black-shouldered kite
2 looks like my bird above that I am trying to Id?
3 could be 2 Tawny eagles
4 Martial eagle

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:49 pm

Karin Mitton wrote:I'll try again
1 & 5 Black-shouldered kite
2 looks like my bird above that I am trying to Id?
3 could be 2 Tawny eagles
4 Martial eagle


I agree with 1 & 5 and 3.
4 is a pale morph Wahlberg's Eagle
2 is an African Hawk-Eagle
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Sat Nov 11, 2017 11:15 pm

Karin Mitton wrote:
wildtuinman wrote:Do you have other photos of it?


They are all more or less similar, but here are two more.

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I just wanted to have a look again. The GISS was almost that of a Black Sparrowhawk, but the tarsi seems feathered and the upperparts of the bird fits African Hawk-Eagle.

Cool bird!
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Sun Nov 12, 2017 6:48 am

wildtuinman wrote:
Cool bird!


I haven't seen this bird since 2012, so it almost feels like a lifer again!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by roaneric » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:24 am

Thanks so much for your help Karin and Wildtuinman. :k :gflower:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Jesscan1 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:44 am

Hello everyone,

Can anyone please help with the ID of these two Raptors?

The photos were all taken in the Berg en Dal area in September 2017.

Bird 1

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Bird 2

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Thanks very much
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:18 am

Wahlberg's Eagle and a young African Hawk-Eagle.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Jesscan1 » Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:42 pm

Thanks so much wildtuinman. Appreciated.


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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by teddy_rsa » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:41 pm

I need help in identify the second bird in the following sequence.
Photos taken in the KTP in Nov 2017. The first bird is a Southern Pale Chanting Goshawk with a snake in its claw. My Query is the second bird (righthand bird in the photos). I suspect it is a juvenile PCG but also could be a Rednecked Falcon or Greater Kestrel? :hmz: :hmz:

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Thanks for your help. :whistle: :D
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by Karin Mitton » Thu Dec 14, 2017 6:50 pm

I'd go with juvie Pale chanting goshawk. But you should also wait for an expert to confirm!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread post by wildtuinman » Fri Dec 15, 2017 6:58 am

Oph... this is a tough one.

It could even be a young Gabar Goshawk.
I get the impression that the bird is smaller than the Pale Chanting Goshawk. But with sexual dimorphism in raptors it is hard to tell whether it is small enough in comparison with the Pale Chanting Goshawk to be a Gabar.

Both Gabar and Pale Chanting Goshawk have pale rumps, so that doesn't even help. The underparts point more to Gabar.IMO.
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