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Sunbird-Scarlet-Chested.

Unread post by Nannie » Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:34 pm

I could not find this anywhere or in the index,Mods move if necessary.
I watched a pair build a nest,the female does all the work the male make sure no one interferes,in a knob-thorn tree.The nest now has chicks in it.On Friday one fell out,there was no way i could get up to nest-10meter up.Put the little one under a nearby bush which it hopped up into.
A friend told me that the parent would find and feed it. Even other birds would respond to it's calls and also feed it????
Each chick has a unique mouth pattern. The chirping and the coloration of the inside of the beak acts as a stimulus to the adult bird to feed it.
Well it survived Saturday night storm and is still going strong, when it chirps it get feed. Here is daddy.

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Unread post by Nannie » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:56 pm

The chick which fell from the nest.

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The female feeding the other chick,note how well the nest is camouflage as and by a spiders nest/web.

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Re: Sunbird-Scarlet-Chested.

Unread post by deefstes » Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:58 pm

Nannie wrote:A friend told me that the parent would find and feed it. Even other birds would respond to it's calls and also feed it????
Each chick has a unique mouth pattern. The chirping and the coloration of the inside of the beak acts as a stimulus to the adult bird to feed it.


Hi Nannie, nice pics. Here's holding thumbs for Jr. and hoping he pulls through.

It is true that the parents will feed him even if he is not in the nest. In fact, as your friend said, other birds (and other species nogals) might also feed the bird although that will be quite unusual. If it does happen, snap some shots, it will make for fascinating viewing.

As for the mouth pattern, I might be wrong but I am not aware of this phenomena in sunbirds. It is something that is well documented in specialised brood parasites and their hosts. The Firefinches and Indigobirds are good examples. Each species of Firefinch has a very specific pattern of black spots inside the mouth of the chicks to which the parents respond. If the chick does not have these spots, the parent will not feed it.

The Indigobirds chicks have matching spots in their mouths. In other words, Purple Indigobird chicks have spots matching that of Jameson's Firefinch chicks, Village Indigobird chicks have spots matching that of Red-billed Firefinch chicks and Dusky Indigobird chicks have spots matching that of African Firefinch chicks. This must be one of the most amazing evolutionary wonders I think.

As I said, I'm not aware of this occurrence in Sunbirds as they are typically not parasitized. One thing that is true though is that the bright yellow inside of the mouth does act as a stimulus for parents to feed the bird and this is why other species might even feed the begging chick. You will notice that just about all chicks have bright yellow mouths cavities. In fact, in fledging birds, a yellow fleshy gape can often still be seen which is usually an indication of a young bird.
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Re: Sunbird-Scarlet-Chested.

Unread post by Nannie » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:44 pm

Thanks deefster, great info. The male and female coaxed the chick out of the nest to-day by hovering in front of it.The chick simply stepped out of the nest trying to reach them and flew.
On the photo the chick is almost out trying to reach the male,2 seconds later he flew.

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Unread post by Yolandé Oelsen » Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:31 pm

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Unread post by Scottm » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:27 pm

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Hand held at 500mm, so please don't complain about the quality :)
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Unread post by Yolandé Oelsen » Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:29 pm

Nice photo Scottm :thumbs_up:
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Unread post by deefstes » Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:19 pm

Scottm wrote:Hand held at 500mm, so please don't complain about the quality :)

No, I'm afraid I'm going to have to complain about the quality. My complaint is that I can't get such good quality hand held at 500m :wall:
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Unread post by Rusty Justy » Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:04 pm

I agree............Nothing wrong with the quality at all :clap: :D
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Unread post by Lizet Grobbelaar » Wed Aug 05, 2009 5:43 pm

The Common coral trees are in bloom and we had a great time photographing these beauties at Berg-in-Dal. Very good place to see these sunbirds now that the leaves are off.


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Unread post by RayK » Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:53 pm

Hi Nannie,
What a beautiful bird. Congratulations to all that submitted photos. Now I have another bird to hunt for and hopefully photograph.

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Unread post by iLoveMeerkats! » Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:52 am

How long are the coral trees in bloom???

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Unread post by Lizet Grobbelaar » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:32 am

According to my Indigenous treebook from June till October.

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Unread post by iLoveMeerkats! » Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:52 am

Hmmm, so do the sunbirds leave in October?

We will be there (Kruger) in November and I really want to see some sunbirds.

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Unread post by Lizet Grobbelaar » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:08 am

They are resident to the area, but it's easier to see them while these flowers are in bloom as you only have to look for one of those trees and will see a sunbird eventually.


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