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Re: KTP Wilderness Camps - Children Policy

Unread post by edertch » Mon Jan 12, 2015 11:00 am

Hi Jonkers,

that was not my question.
Question is: Children allowed at Kalahari Tented Camp at all or not. Answer from Reservation as well as texts on web site (see my first post) are different.

The question is not if allowed in which units.

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Re: KTP Wilderness Camps - Children Policy

Unread post by Jonkers » Mon Jan 12, 2015 2:05 pm

if you have your answer from a san park reservation official that children are allowed in KTC what else are you looking for
obviously only the family units hosts children as these are the only units with children rates........

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Re: KTP Wilderness Camps - Children Policy

Unread post by edertch » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:03 pm

Hi Jonkers,

as said I got 6 answers - two "No problem" and four "NO children at all are allowed at any Wilderness Camp" (just like the two officially different statements on the web site). I prefer not to arrive a KTC to hear - Oh sorry, the people that said it is not allower were correct so you may not stay here!

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Re: KTP Wilderness Camps - Children Policy

Unread post by Jonkers » Mon Jan 12, 2015 4:27 pm

I have visited KTC regularly and I have seen children as small as babies staying in the family units. If you book the family unit 2 adults 2 children you are within the rules. They will have an awesome time there. Enjoy it, they are over 12 and able to stay in any of the wilderness camps before you know it

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Re: KTP Wilderness Camps - Children Policy

Unread post by Son godin » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:12 pm

Children are allowed at KTC otherwise they would not have called it family units with rates for kids as Jonkers explained. I've also stayed at KTC when my son was 7 and 11 years old and on all occasion children were present.

The reason for advising you to book only one unit for 4 people is purely base on the risk of wild animals in the camp because it is not recommended to move between two units. You can split with one adult in a unit with a child, but it becomes very inconvenient when preparing food and if you need something that is now in the other unit, e.g. medicine or clothing or in case of an emergency. Also you may not get two units next to each other.

I've stayed with my son in the wilderness camps when he was older than 12 years, but even then found that we all stayed in the one small unit instead of utilizing both units that we booked.

In summary you can book for your family at KTC and it might not be an issue if you have more than 2 children and need an extra unit. The family unit has lots of space and if they do allow a 3rd child it will not be a problem to accommodate.
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Re: KTP Wilderness Camps - Children Policy

Unread post by barryels » Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:04 am

In addition to the above comments by Jonkers and Son godin the following:

edertch wrote:Hi there,

I would appreciate if somebody can give a definite answer to the following issue (as SanParks itself seems not to be able to answer this - obviously very uncommon - question:

I spoke to 6 different people at SanPark regarding the booking for children at KTP Wilderness Camps. Four told me that children below 12 are NOT allowed at ANY Wilderness Camps, 2 of them confirmed, that Kalahari Tented Camp allows children below 12 and even send me a confirmed reservation for that.
The SanPark's web site states also two different versions:
1) "No children under the age of 12 is allowed at any of the park’s Wilderness camps."
2) "Chidren under 12 years are not allowed at these camps: Kieliekrankie, Urikaruus, Gharagab, Bitterpan, Grootkolk." (thus Kalahari Tented Camp is not named so children are allowed?).

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Dear edertch,

You actually already supplied the answers to your questions above.

1. Kalahari Tented Camp is not classified as a Wilderness Camp per sè and is therefore excluded from points 1 & 2 above. This is due to the fact that there are family units available in this camp where children under the age of 12 as well as adults are allowed to stay in these units to a maximum of 4 people. The same rules in points 1 & 2 however apply with reference to the Desert tents in the camp as applicable to that of the Wilderness Camps.

2. Cognizance should also be taken of the fact that every unit in SANParks is designed for the purpose of accommodating a certain number of people (All ages).

3. One should also remember that SANParks has a responsibility to ensure the safety of its visitors and it will be unfair to expect SANParks management to ensure the safety of a child under the age of 12 when accommodated in a separate unit in a wilderness camp.

4. Children above the age of 12 years old are allowed in Wilderness Camps in a separate unit. The reason for allowing children at the age of 12 to stay separately is due to the fact that the generally accepted age of a child that reaches accountability is 12 years of age.

With the above in mind, it is obvious that all 6 of the SANParks personnel were correct in the answers they gave you.

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Re: KTP Wilderness Camps - Children Policy

Unread post by edertch » Wed Jan 14, 2015 9:51 am

Hi barryels,

thanks for your Comprehensive answer.

Regarding (1): http://www.sanparks.org/parks/kgalagadi ... wilderness (KTC is listed under Wilderness Camps)

With the above in mind, it is obvious that all 6 of the SANParks personnel were correct in the answers they gave you.
Maybe I am writing in a misunderstanding way. 4 of them clearly said: NO Children at all under 12 in any camp other than the three big ones and !Xaus!!!

Just to close the thread: Spoke to a Reservation Manager at SanPARKS again and he double-confirmed that NO CHILDREN (below 12) are allowed at ANY Wilderness Camp including KTC!

Thanks for all your help.

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Nossob camping with a 3 month old baby???

Unread post by Nimrod » Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:33 am

Hi

We booked in May 2015 for April 2016 at Nossob and were very excited that we found availability as Nossob was fully booked that same afternoon we booked. We will however be taknig our first child with. He will be 3 months then. Has anyone gone camping in Kgalagadi for 7 nights with a 3 month old baby? We are fully geared and I booked a site with electricity. We will be travelling from Stellenbosch...

Hoping for soom good answers....

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Re: Nossob camping with a 3 month old baby???

Unread post by Anelize » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:44 am

We've camped 34 nights in nossob over the past 5 years, with out kids aged 8 and 10. The problem with Nossob is not the the camp facilities but the remote locoation of the camp. Should your baby get sick - and children get sick at the most inconvenient times - you'll have a huge problem. Our daughter got sick last week in Nossob. Despite the fact we had a medical specialist in our party, who had proper med equipment to treat her, it was a very bad and stressful experience. We had to consider evacuating her to a hospital and realised that you are hours away from proper med care. Luckily she eventually reponded to the treatment our friend administred and we could complete our holiday.

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Re: Nossob camping with a 3 month old baby???

Unread post by George_Brits » Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:07 am

Congratulations with the expected little one, Nimrod!

I think one should take good care where you pitch your tent, as April it can still get uncomfortably hot and the evenings do tend to get a tad nippy. I would suggest to ensure that you have enough shade! Make sure that the little one is protected from the sun, good sunscreen and protective clothing, precautions against mozzie bites will be good too. I hope you and your family have a fantastic time :)

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Re: Nossob camping with a 3 month old baby???

Unread post by kite » Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:24 pm

That's what I was worried about as well, Anelize. :(
It's not easy with babies in remote areas because of being so far from medical care in case of illness, or accident of some type. :hmz:
Maybe another Sanparks camp like eg Addo would be better for a few years. :slap:
Rather be cautious at this stage. Sorry to be unable to encourage you to go to Nossob! :cry:

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Re: Nossob camping with a 3 month old baby???

Unread post by Hippotragus » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:09 pm

I'm afraid I agree with kite and Anelize. Babies and small children can get sick so quickly and can dehydrate to dangerous levels frighteningly quickly.

As much as you obviously love KTP, I would, for a few years, go to some of the other SANParks that are closer to "civilisation" than KTP. I see you are from Stellenbosch - have you been to Addo, Karoo National Park or Mountain Zebra National Park? They are all wonderful and each has its own charm, but are close to large towns, in the event of an emergency.

If you do go to KTP, make sure that your doctor or pharmacist makes up a comprehensive medical kit for you and the baby.
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Re: Nossob camping with a 3 month old baby???

Unread post by Nimrod » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:14 pm

Hi Hippo

Thanx. Yes we were in Addo in April and have been to Karoo a few times. Loved them all. I have been to kruger also many many times. I booked the last week in April 2016 where one only needs 4 days leave for like 10 days off so its really a great week.

I still don't know what to do... I suppose I will know when our baby is born in Jan..

P.S. I am a pharmacist...

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Re: Nossob camping with a 3 month old baby???

Unread post by Hippotragus » Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:47 pm

Hi Nimrod

That sounds a good plan - wait until baby is born and make up your minds nearer to April.

Good that you are a pharmacist - you will know what to pack in your medicine box!!

Good luck with the birth - very exciting times ahead!
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Re: Nossob camping with a 3 month old baby???

Unread post by Friedrich von Hörsten » Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:40 pm

Hi Nimrod,

Enjoy taking your baby to the bush!
We took my first born son to Mana Pools when he was 6 weeks old -- I did the nappies and guarded over him at night so hyenas wouldn't chow him up... lol.
Be careful, but have fun! Nossob is not in wild country... really!
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Hope it works out well for you!

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