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Unread post by bert » Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:39 am

With Bucky here.
Either go for MM or Tented Camp
In the same area and only 4 km between them.
We did Augrabies, departed in the morning, did shopping at the
Pick&Pay Upington and arrived early afternoon at TR.

Why not a few days at TR, Nossob and KT each.

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Unread post by Pjw » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:13 pm

Thanks for that advice. We are rapidly coming to understand we need 10 days in KTP and may have to either delay the trip or try move it to July09, depending on booking availability as we are still bound by school holidays. Hopefully we can move it to July next year. Will be checking the accomodation pages later today
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Unread post by GavinW » Tue Oct 14, 2008 4:15 pm

How does this itenery sound??

1st night Twee Riveren - chalet
2nd night Urikaruus
then
3 nights Mata Mata - camping
3 nights Nossob -camping
2 nights Grootkolk
2 nights Nossob - camping
2 nights Kielie Krankie
1 night Twee Riveren- chalet
then home!!

I'm like a small child I can't wait!!!!
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best scenic bush campsites

Unread post by paulgodard » Sun Oct 19, 2008 8:36 pm

Hi everyone

What are the best scenic bush campsites to stay for a few nights (we are fully autonomous for weeks) and from where to explore the nearby area early morning and in the late afternoon? Where are exactly all these superb red and orange dunes and endless landscapes? If these places exist, are they also good for game viewing?

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Unread post by Batsman » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:41 pm

The most scenic wilderness camp is Kieliekrankie, Paul. But the game is very modest to say at least.

On the other hand the Auob riverbed is very close.

My favourite is Grootkolk. Very scenic, great game sightings and a lot to discover in the surrounding area.

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Unread post by Annaluisa » Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:56 pm

I'm not sure if other forumites consider Kalahari Tented Camp to be a true 'wilderness camp' (because of its relative closeness to Mata Mata), but it's certainly one of our favourites in terms of its scenic setting and the wonderful game we have seen in the area. One question, Paul: you refer to 'scenic bush campsites' - are you talking about places where you can camp using your own equipment? Because the only camps (as far as I know) in the South African part of Kgalagadi where you can do this are the 'traditional' camps, i.e. Twee Rivieren, Mata Mata and Nossob. In all the other bush or wilderness camps you stay in permanent tented accommodation.

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Unread post by paulgodard » Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:17 pm

We intend to use our own equipment, which includes a big tent on an off-road trailer. The idea is to find the most scenic 'bush campsite' (whichever side, ZA or Botswana), stay there at least 3 nights and explore from there.

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Unread post by bigal » Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:51 pm

Hi paulgodard

If you intend to use your own tent I would say Polentswa on the Botswana side would be best. From there you can travel North on the SA side to Unions End or South towards Nossob.

This is a true wilderness camp with no fences. The best camp site is No.1 it overlooks the pan and you have regular visitors to the camp at night.
The wilderness camps on the SA side have 4 fixed tents come bungalows and no camping is not allowed.

Feel free to PM me for any more info.

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Unread post by Dreamer » Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:34 pm

Sorry paulgoddard, can't help you with your bush campsite query but do have a question for Bigal and his reply could be helpful to you as well

Bigal...paul mentioned that they use a tent on top of a trailer. Is it not so that trailers are not allowed on the Polentswa Wilderness Trail? That must be a bit of a disappointment for those wanting to camp with the trailer camper in the traditional camps as well as doing the Wilderness camps on the Botswana side Bit of a hassel to fit everything into your 4x4 vehicle I would imagine.
Look forward to hearing how you do this
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Unread post by bigal » Tue Oct 21, 2008 12:43 am

Hi Dreamer

Strange to hear that, i have spoken to a number of KTP fans who have taken 4x4 caravans to Polentswa and not had any problems and i have been there with a 4x4 trailer before, maybe this is something new. I think it could only be for the trail but the camp is before the trail. Will find out for sure tomorrow and will post it here .

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Unread post by Dreamer » Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:25 am

Having one of those moments am I?
Now it all falls into place and I am so happy
The Kgalagadi Official Information Guide on page 11 discusses the Botswana Camps and I read it incorrectly!! It clearly states "No trailers are allowed" for the Kaa, Polentswa and Mabuasehube 'trails'I did not pay attention to the word trails and read it to be those camps!
Thats great as we are really keen to "one day" get a 4x4 trailer with tent and explore those areas of KTP.
Have you taken a trailer to all these camps before?
Now I know who to come to for first hand advise...THANKS
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Unread post by bigal » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:21 am

Hi Dreamer

I have been to Rooiputs and Polentswa with a 4x4 trailer/caravan.
Just spoke to a friend who said they have been upto Bosobogolo on the Mabuasehube trail with a trailer but you can't go futher than that with a trailer.
Hope this helps will try find out more and will let you know.


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Unread post by bigal » Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:42 am

Hi again

Just spoke to a friend at Twee Rivieren who just spoke to to the people there for me.
This is how it works: you can take a trailer only on the bottom section of the Mabuasehube Trail that is Matopi 1 , Matopi 2 and Bosobogolo and no futher, upto Polentswa camp and no futher on that trail. Trailers are not allowed on any of the other trails that includes the northern section (Kaa and that area).

Hope this helps.
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Unread post by Dreamer » Tue Oct 21, 2008 3:29 pm

Thank you so much Bigal for doing this It is all so clear now
I called TR Reception the other day because I wanted clarity and the person I spoke to confirmed 'no' trailers, BUT that was because I asked her about the 'trails' so it was because I was not clear in what I asked Now all that's needed is THE trailer and a CT forumites get together so you can enlighten are few more of us interested folk
Thanks Big'al' , I'm sure you have made it clear for many
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Unread post by afri-explore » Tue Oct 21, 2008 4:15 pm

The first is the Gemsbok wilderness trail from Nossob over Polentswa, Kaa and back to Nossob (one-way anti-clockwise) with one compulsory sleepover on the route. The second one is the eco trail (one-way) from east to west between Mabuasehube and Nossob. Both these trails require pre-booking with limitations on the number and type of vehicles and as far as I know NO trailers are not allowed on these trails. The Swart Pan loop needs no booking, neither is the direction of travel defined.

The road from Kaa Gate to the Nossob-Unions End road, connecting at Kannaguas is indicated as a 'public road'. It is a single track, but allowing two-way traffic.

Then there is the other 'public' two-way traffic road between Nossob and Mabuasehube.

Both these 'public' roads are connecting roads that allows access through the park between Botswana and South Africa. I have not seen any limitations on whether the access roads prohibits the use of trailers - maybe a recommendation not to bring your "ventertjie" along.

If anyone have the latest 'official' rules/information please correct me. Word of mouth is missleading. As an example, in 2006 we were told by a park official that we are not allowed into the Botswana side without stamped passports, corrected by the customs officer when we explained that we were not planning on exiting the park into the greater Botswana.
(We did the documentation in any case just to be sure.)

My reference: The Shell Tourist Map of Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park by Veronica Roodt, 2006.


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