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Re: Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park with a MOTORHOME

Unread postby carolz » Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:27 pm

Hi Amy
Maybe you should try some other places that hire out camping equipment and vehicles. There are many other options. Maybe a vehicle that can handle the roads better with a rooftop tent. There are many places that hire out camping equipment. Do a google search for 4x4hire and you should find something, or let me know and I will send you some web addresses.
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Kgalagadi on sedan and camping

Unread postby vinomundo » Wed Jan 14, 2009 10:33 am

hello,

I plan to vist north west region of SA in AUgust. I had like to visit Kgalagadi and other National Parks in the region. I have +- 21 days and plane back is from Cape Town.

Some questions:
- what kind of car do I have to hire in Cape Town? We are a family with 2 smal children, 8 and 3 y. I plan to hire a normal family car so I can't to 4x4 trails, but normal roads?
- I had like to camp but I think this period is to cold? Is it?
- If I can't camp I'll have to sleep in bungalows. Do I have to book in advance? Which should I book?
- Which other nice national parks in the region should I also visit?
- If you have some nice places to stay in the region it's welcome. I like places which are not to expensive, luxury is not necessary but a bit of comfort is welcome because of travelling with smal children.

Thanks a lot for info!!!!!

Greetings,

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Re: Kgalagadi on sedan and camping

Unread postby Senyetse » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:14 pm

Hi vinomundo and welcome!

The car - if you can afford it go for a Nissan X-Trail or something similar. The height will be very useful and the fact that it is a (soft) off roader means that you will travel comfortably over the gravel roads of Kgalagadi. Otherwise if the budget is tight then a Toyota Corolla or Avanza will be sufficient. However bear in mind tht if you are camping that the car must be big enough for a tent, sleeping bags, chairs, clothes etc. If you decide on camping you should consider renting a off-road camper that can fit 4. Several companies have them for hire and they include all camping equipment and usually a fridge as well. The tar roads in SA are good.

August can be a bit cold but camping can be handled. Warm sleeping bags, woolen hats, jackets and gloves will keep you warm.

I would suggest you book in advance to avoid disappointment. Schools close end of August and IIRC private schools are on holiday in August.
In Kgalagadi the chalets are great and very comfortable. The chalets at Twee Rivieren, Nossob and Mata Mata are fully equipped, affordable and very comfortable. Unfortunately Mata Mata only has 2 bed chalets (why Sanparks???) so you may have to book 2 chalets. Otherwise e-mail the camp and ask if its OK if your kids share with you.

Twee Rivieren, Mata Mata and Nossob also have camp sites available, just remember you will have to bring all your own equipment.

The wilderness camps are a bit more expensive and only Kalahari Tented Camp offers 4 bed units. The other camps do not allow more than 2 per unit. The wilderness camps do not offer camp sites.

You'll be coming from Cape Town, I will highly recommend Namaqua National Park (no campng though), although you may not get accommodation there as it will be the flowering season then. Augrabies is a must, it is near Upinton and has comfortable 4 bed chalets as well as camp sites available.
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Re: Kgalagadi on sedan and camping

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:53 pm

Hi vinomundo & welcome to the forum.

It might be an idea to fly from Cape Town to Upington and hire a vehicle there, unless you wish to travel by road. The end of August is the Namaqualand flower season and accomodation from Darling to Springbok and Calvinia is quite full.
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No Camping space available?

Unread postby Arierep » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:20 pm

Any practical suggestions please.

I'm visiting KFP at the end of May for 9days in a 4x4 with tent on top entering Mata Mata gate. So far all the requests for camping space returned with a fully booked reply.

I haven't tried the unfenced camps yet. If I cannot get a camping space what is the next option to pursue?

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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Hugh » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:59 pm

Hello and welcome to the forum
Looking at the availabilty there is still plenty of camping accommodation at Mata Mata from the 25 th May onwards.
Twee Rivieren has plenty of camping available.
its only Nossop that appears to be fully booked
Try to book online
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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Arierep » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:01 pm

Elizabeth Thank you, I'll do that.

Sorry fo my ignorance as I have never been in this area before - what
happens if I do not get back into the camp by 1800 hours? Is it like Kruger park where they fine you money that you need for petrol or are they more forgiving? I realise that park rules say that you cannot drive at night.

I'm used to the North American parks where you just go into the wilderness find a spot and sleep in the car. (grizzly bears do ocasionally knock on the car window asking for breakfast.)

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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Hugh » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:31 pm

The rules of Sanparks are that you arrive back before a certain time( it does change according to the time of the year. ) but there is no reason to be late unless you have a problem with the car. So there is no reason to loose all your money on fines. America might tolerate driving late but the situation in the Game Parks here is very different. You also have to keep to the designated roads even though you might have a 4x4, off road riding is not tolerated. You have to sleep in a recognised camp at night. Some of the camps only have chalets or safari tents but no camping that is why its so important to book your spot.
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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Arierep » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:01 pm

Elizabeth you are a great lady for all this advice. I'll strickly obey the rules because I don't have much bread to pay on fines.

If you never experienced being woken up in the wilderness by one of those creatures looking for breakfast, you're missing something.

I can think of many reasons to get back before closing time - I'm a professional photographer - imagine an African sunset with an appealing scene and you have to leave it to get back back before closing time?

If there are any photographers reading this I know exactly what they would say. But you converted me with your information for my own good.

Thank you very much for your advice.
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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Imberbe » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:13 pm

Hi and welcome to the Forums!

Yes, all need to adhere to the rules. These rules ensure that the parks remain as pristine as they are, otherwise everybody would just do as they please, with the resulting damage to nature and the sense of wilderness.

In the end in our National Parks the good of nature is placed above the preference of man. And that is the way it should remain.

If you are really serious about your photography you can apply for special permissions. But then you will be accompanied by a guide. There is of course costs involved in this.

As for sunsets in KTP ... brilliant even from the camps!

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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Maaike T » Sun Mar 22, 2009 1:53 pm

We also had a little problem. We wanted 2 nights in Nossob, but only 1 was available. Almost every day I checked ‘availability’ en this morning……. Yes!!!!! A chalet was available. Someone must have cancelled the chalet. So we made a phone call to the reservation number. It was still free. Finally we have 2 nights in different chalets, but that’s not a problem. Now we can go to Union’s End and sign the book.

So check every day the ‘availability’. Now you see it is possible. It happened to us.

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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Caracal » Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:16 pm

And you may still be able to get two nights in the same chalet..even when you arrive ask reception if they can do anything to help you. Quite often they are able to sort it out for you.

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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Arierep » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:57 pm

It seems as if NOSSOB is a famous place to visit. Why is that? Good looking LIONS?

So, If Nossob is fully booked where else can one stay within reasonable distance? BITTERPAN?

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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Pikasso » Sun Mar 22, 2009 8:54 pm

Arierep, as a KTP fan, I can tell you that ALL the camps are great there.
Nossob is only a bit special because it is the only main camp on this side, so you can go from here up to Union's end.
Wonderful sightings can happen any time anywhere, even only a few hundred meters from Twee Rivieren gates (famous leopard and cub around ).

As a photographer, I sure understand you... indeed it is sometimes frustrating, but there is always a waterhole close to every camp, so you can enjoy the light there nearly up to the last minute!
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Re: No Camping space available?

Unread postby Caracal » Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:06 pm

Nossob is just Nossob..a place with it's own character ...like every other camp in KTP.

Bitterpan may be fairly close to Nossob but you do need a 4 x4 to get there. Also the trail can only be done in one direction...from Nossob to Bitterpan and from Bitterpan to the Auob Riverbed via Strathmore and Nu-Quap waterholes or from Bitterpan to Moravet on the dune road. From Moravet you have a choice of either going to the Auob Riverbed or to the Nossob Riverbed.
See map here
Also no camping at Bitterpan and no trailers, even 4 x 4 trailers are allowed on the route.

Oh yes good lookng lions at Nossob but then all the lions in KTP are good looking


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