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Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by iNkwazi » Tue Aug 18, 2009 4:00 pm

Here's a suggestion..... (Mods, if this has already been discussed, pls delete/move).

How possible would it be to start an info topic on the various established prides of lion in Kruger?

There are a number of lion prides throughout the KNP. Sightings of lion are special to most people and personally, I would love to have more insight into these prides - it would make the sighting even more exciting – the challenge of identifying which pride it is.

It could involve both the staff of Sanparks ie. rangers and guides (I am assuming that the section rangers etc. have a good knowledge of the prides that traverse their area), as well as forumites (who could be involved with and contribute to conservation in a small way) - all the above participating in the updating of records by submitting info (sightings) and photos, and therefore keeping track of the pride’s wellbeing.

Suggestions: name of pride, names of individuals (I assume the well known individuals have names?), photos of each member of the pride and clues to identifying the members eg, scars and whisker patterns, territory range, size of pride, condition of pride, hunting habits eg are they specialist hunters. Nomadic lions could also be included.

What do other forumites think?

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by joekin » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:07 pm

I know of the Mapogas(7 males coalition i think) in greater Kruger (please correct if wrong)

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by Goggo EJ » Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:42 pm

I'm at Punda at the moment! Know of 3 prides around here - Klopperfontein area, Dzundwini area, and around camp - but not numbers etc.

At CB there was a big pride in the camp area, but it seemed to have split just before I left there. Also often saw lions in the H5 junction area, and around Duke waterhole.

At Malelane there were 4 nomadic males often seen on tar road north around Steilberg junction area, and the pride around BnD - but the nomads were moving into BnD area as I came north so not sure what is happening there now.

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by iNkwazi » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:03 pm

I know there is a pride whose territory is between LS and Croc Bridge. The last time we saw them (in July 2009) there were 2 males, 3 females and 2 cubs about 2-3 months old.
If you have a look at Aat Vuik's site: www.studio-aat.com, under Kruger visit 2009, click on Big Cats 2, you can see his photos of the males. They look fairly old and weather/war beaten. One of the males has scars on both his right shoulder and right flank.

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by bornfree » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:24 pm

Very interested in a pride of about 30 lions I called the Mazithi pride as that is where they have been seen. First saw them Oct 08 and they have since been seen by others, I think Mant also posted pics of them about 5 or 6 months after that, still seem to be about 30 of them. I would love to know if they are still together.

Another pride I saw at the same time was just before the Orpen dam turnoff on the H10. There were 6 males and 1 lioness that were visible,(very strange make up of numbers). One of the males had a long scar high up on the inside of his right back leg.

Also Oct 08 and on the H10, a small pride 2 females with 3 cubs and 1 male, but the females were the biggest I have ever seen.

I dont know if we need to submit pics or not?

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by TheunsH » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:32 pm

On the H4-1 around the H12 T-junction we have seen a pride of lions consisting of approximately 13-16 lions a few years in a row. The lions in this pride were getting thinner and thinner each year and we haven't seen them the past year.

I took this photo:
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Around Mavumbye on the S90 waterhole we also saw a huge pride on a few trips to the Park! A guide on a night drive said they were the Mavumbye pride. :thumbs_up:

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by joekin » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:38 pm

S36 shimangwaneni water hole saw a large pride +20

3 huge males, females and cubs seen end august 2008.
they were spread around the dam

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by joekin » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:51 pm

Lower Sabie males

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seen august 2008

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by bornfree » Thu Aug 20, 2009 7:26 pm

OK,
Pride seen at Orpen dam turnoff, H10
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Mazithi Pride,part thereof,
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Part of the pride with big females,
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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by iNkwazi » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:30 pm

Wow :!: :!: Big pride.... How many do you think??

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by bornfree » Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:33 pm

Hi,
When I saw the Mazithi pride there were 30!! Absolutely stunning.

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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by big5spotter » Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:44 pm

When we were in LS june martie or (MJ) said the 2 males around LS are called the Lower sabie gentlemen!We saw 1 of the males mating with a female just past the low water bridge!
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We saw 12 lions on the S28 near Mac's and Martie said its a pride of 14 there are 2 males!Forgot what they called them but in Jan 09 we saw 2 males in that area so could have been them!
Here is a pic of a few of the 12 we saw
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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by issi » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:54 pm

Hi all lion lovers, thanks I think this is a great idea! Unfortunately I’m only going to Kruger in October, but I will definitely send some pics. I only have pics from 2008. We saw lions at least 4 times a day.
Nobody has mentioned the pride at Satara with the lioness with the collar. W3 saw her pride 3 years in a row in the area between the S100; H 1-3 and the H6. In October 2008 they used the bridge (±4km from Satara) as a den for the cubs.
Then we saw a pride (8) on the dirt road (S33 at Vutomi dam) It could not have been the Mazithi pride because we saw them earlier that day on the bank of the N’waswitsontso “spruit” and it could not be the pride at Shimangwaneni / Muzandzeni because we saw the later the same day.
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Re: Lion prides of Kruger

Unread post by issi » Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:56 pm

The lions from 2008:
Satara: The BIG BOSS
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Satara: Lioness with collar:
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Satara:Lioness with notch in ear:Lioness with notch in ear
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Satara : one of the cubbs
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The pride on the S33:
I tried my best at a group photo bur the lions would not help. They had to much to eat as can be seen with the Impala in the background.
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Two of the female lions.
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One of the Males
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the pride on the H1-4 from Satara to Olifants:
I don’t know if these belong to the same pride but we saw lions on the S41 near Gudzani, the next day we saw lions on the S90 at Mavumye and two day later on our way out we the lions at a Hippo kill. Further on the H 1-4 closer to Olifants we saw another pride of about 8 but they were not close

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The pride closer to Olifants
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The Mazithi pride
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Two Male that was at the Olifantsdrinkgat:
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Last the pride at Masorini:
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