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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by cheetah2111 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 8:22 am

Dup wrote:Thanks cheetah2111,
I'am not that strong on face book so the picture you draw help a lot and is nice reading. I think something that could confuse the picture are pack's that move from or to the neighbours like Timbavati.I personaly witness a pack of 5 a few years ago very near the western border of the Timbavati (close to Kapama).
Then also a pack of around 30 in the Kings camp concession area 14 months ago.

I agree :thumbs_up: There are many groups moving in and out of Kruger, making it quite confusing! I saw a wildlife documentary on the 'Predators of the Timbavati' and the filming took place outside of Kruger, yet I could identify from my own photos that the big wild dog pack on the show was indeed the Orpen pack we see in Kruger :D No doubt dogs come in from outside the borders and are misidentified as this or that pack. The packs operate in close proximity to one another in some areas of Kruger now :D

I always follow the wild dog researchers on twitter and facebook. I will share any newsworthy info :thumbs_up:
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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by Bush Baptist » Tue Jan 21, 2014 5:12 pm

Regarding the 'Orpen' pack.

In my last few visits to Kruger, granted, not very recently, but not far apart, I saw 11 dogs 7 km from Orpen camp on the H7, and 24 on the Vutomi road the next time.

I might be mistaken, but I think they were 2 separate packs.

Talamati is serval country PietSkiet. Look for them there rather.
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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by cheetah2111 » Tue Jan 21, 2014 7:48 pm

I would agree :thumbs_up:

I am in contact with a ranger in the endangered wildlife trust wild dog project in Kruger. They are currently stationed in Central Kruger, and hoping to collar a pack that is so far un-collared.
I am shocked to hear there are 6 packs in Central Kruger :big_eyes: :big_eyes: :big_eyes:
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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by PetraJ » Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:37 am

PietSkiet wrote:Thanks for the info, it is interesting.

We saw a pack of 6 dogs on the S90 near the Balule turn off in August 2010 but I have never heard or seen anything on this pack again. Is there anyone who perhaps have info regarding this pack?


We found them at Ngotso again this holiday, although we couldn't see them all, other guests said they counted 6 in the pack.

Then the pack around Satara counted 7 adults, they were seen quite regularly within 4 to 5 km from the camp, as far south as the Nwanetsi road turn off, the Orpen road up to Nsemani dam, S100, and apparently one day 200m from the Satara gate.

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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by AndreaB » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:56 pm

We saw 3 different packs within 4 hours last week, Skukuza to LS tar road, S30 and the S25 nr Hippo Pools. We then had a further sighting close to Skukuza, doggy days :-)
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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by sarafl » Sat Feb 22, 2014 3:02 am

I just returned from Kruger and am pleased to say that we had several sightings of the dogs. We saw two running down the road just outside of Lower Sabie camp during the rain (no photos- only video). Then we had 5 sightings of the pack of 6 near Berg En Dal (collared leader). I thought that pack looked in good condition- here are several photos of them taken last week.

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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by katmal » Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:49 pm

Thanks for the information cheetah2111. We witnessed 6 members of the Skukuza pack (confirmed by KNP wild dog research unit) directly north of afsaal middle November 2013. We left them still moving south at Renosterpan the same morning and it wasn't long after that when these dogs attacked the Bergendal pack and killed at least 1 dog. What is the dynamics of the Skukuza pack at present? Especially since the alpha male Lightning is now seen on its own along the h4-1? The remainder of the pack seem to hang around the Sand River (H1-2) and Sabi Sands area a lot since 10 dogs are often seen on the private reserves. If they split up the 6 dogs in the south surely forms a new pack as well?

Please let me know I am fascinated by the packs in Kruger!

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Unread post by normana53 » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:21 pm

Cheetah, glad to hear that the Wild Dog population is doing so well. We hope to get another sighting when we visit Kruger next spring. Last time we saw any, it was a small group of 5 on the S118 just east of the H3. It was a very hot day and they had apparently just eaten, as all had bellies that looked as though they would burst at any moment. We watched them for over a half hour, as they just laid sleeping and trying to stay out of the heat. a few cars drove by and none even slowed down to see what we were watching. They were no more than 8m away from the road!

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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by Trrp-trrrrrrrr » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:50 pm

Elsa wrote:Saw 4 of the Orpen pack this morning on the Rabelaise loop.


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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by cheetah2111 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:11 pm

Thanks Katmal!

As you have said, lighting, who used to be the alpha male of the Skukuza pack has gone solo! I am in the same boat as you - wanting to find out what is going on in the Skukuza pack!
5 of the Skukuza pack females headed off on their own, and collected one male from the Sabi Sands pack near Leopard Hills and they became the Investec pack. They have since moved North in to the Orpen area and are the small group people are mistaking for 4 of the Orpen pack. The one female bore 5 pups in Feb, but people tend to only see the four hunting adults out and about, mainly on the Rabaleis road.

It is Grant Beverly's (the head wild dog researcher) hope that lighting will hook up with some girls and form a new pack :thumbs_up:

Graham_5000 wrote:Great news - maybe there will be some splinter groups formed so that there are more packs? I'm still yet to see any - in fact I think everyone is making them up! Haha

Indeed! There have already been splits and new groups formed! :thumbs_up:
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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by cheetah2111 » Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:13 pm

Graham you need to give the summer months a shot for wild dogs mate :wink: When are you in Kruger this year? Maybe we can meet up this year?

normana53 wrote:Cheetah, glad to hear that the Wild Dog population is doing so well. We hope to get another sighting when we visit Kruger next spring. Last time we saw any, it was a small group of 5 on the S118 just east of the H3. It was a very hot day and they had apparently just eaten, as all had bellies that looked as though they would burst at any moment

That is the Jock pack :D Named after the Jock Safari Lodge where a camera trap recorded the birth of some of the pups of the pack in Jan :thumbs_up:
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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by cheetah2111 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:49 pm

I just got some more info from Grant Beverley who is heading up research in the field in Kruger for wild dog research:


The Skukuza Pack
Ok the skukuza pack contained 16 individuals in March 2013 when 5 females dispersed meeting up with one male and forming the Investec pack of 6 adults. That left the Skukuza pack with 11 adults. This back then split again in September 2013 where 4 Dogs left. At the time it was assumed alpha male "lightning" and the 6 other Dogs in the Skukuza pack were killed because they were no where to be seen. Until Jan 2014 when the 7 adults including lighting were seen with 4 new pups. These 11 are now the skukuza pack because they contain the same alpha pair. The 4 adults that dispersed in september are yet to be named as a pack because they are a single sex dispersal group
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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by cheetah2111 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:01 am

Graham_5000 wrote:Maybe we'll stumble upon a pack of doggies on the S28?!

Not the most likely road, but we never say never :wink:

Graham_5000 wrote:Have the Wild Dog research team got a website, Twitter handle or Facebook page?

The twitter handle - @KNPWildDogs
The facebook page - Endangered Wildlife Trust

So for the tweeters, please #@KNPWildDogs and include the road and number of dogs to help in effort of sharing information. Grant adds those photos to his gallery (of which he has about 15000) to aid in individual plus pack identification. When there is a wild dog pack shot on facebook I like to tag Grant so that he can confirm the pack, and he can keep updated on their health condition.

Graham_5000 wrote:PS Did Investec sponsor the research in order to have a pack named after them as an advertisement?

Investec sponsored their collars after their habit of running around on the main roads outside of Kruger.I think the name just stuck rather than it being a advertising ploy from Investec.

Graham we will keep in touch around that time and keep updated on the movements of the wild dog packs :thumbs_up:
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Unread post by PietSkiet » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:14 am

Hi Friedrich,

Not sure how much this will help, but very good friends of mine just returned from Kruger and they found a far pregnant female on the S126 near Muzandzeni picnic spot. Don't think they were part of the big Orpen pack as there were only 4 of them at the time of the sighting.
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Re: Good denning season - wild dog numbers looking good!

Unread post by Elsa » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:42 am

Had a wonderful sighting of a nice sized pack of dogs right on the road just above Sunset Dam on May 26th.
When we came back down in the afternoon they were still lying just off the road sleeping. :D
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