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Re: Info: Sunset/Night drives taken from camps.

Unread post by Elsa » Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:55 am

Hi Josette,

Have a look at Availability
This is for Skukuza which I picked randomly but you can go to the camps of your choice which seem to be all working fine.

You can take a chance and book when checking in at the various camps but might be better to book and be sure.

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Re: Info: Sunset/Night drives taken from camps.

Unread post by inigana » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:21 pm

Hi there!
I'm traveling to Kruger the 2nd week of September. I'm staying at one night at Skukuza, two nights at Lower Sabie and the last night at Berg en dal.
I'm planning to do some morning and sunset drives at those parks. Which one is best for each camp?? what would you recommend, morning or sunset at those camps?? I think i'd rather go for a sunset drive instead of a night drive though.
And last, is it worth it to go for a morning walk at Lower Sabie? I don't feel quite safe walking around with animals out there!
Thanks in advance!!

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Re: Info: Sunset/Night drives taken from camps.

Unread post by saraf » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:59 pm

I would say go for the walk at Lower Sabie. Just bear in mind that most animals will hear or see humans on foot way before you will see them and take flight. Normally you won't get close enough for them to be a danger. And the guides are well trained and will not walk into trouble.

For a drive, I like to spend my last night in Kruger on a drive. Drives from BnD do get some good sightings.
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Re: How safe are the open game viewing vehicles?

Unread post by RobertT » Thu Jul 09, 2015 2:37 pm

I think the vehicle is as safe as the driver makes it. Vehicles don't put you in situations, people do. :thumbs_up:

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Best Camps for Night Drives...?

Unread post by Tomeslice » Sat Jan 02, 2016 5:02 pm

Hi all!
I'm going with my family to Kruger for 5 nights as part of our South African trip.

Inside Kruger, my main targets are: 1. Wild Dogs, 2. Serval, 3. Sable Antelope (but I will also be searching for these in Mokala).
Aside from the Sable which is not easy in Kruger, I think Serval is only really encountered on night drives, and I heard Satara is a good camp for that.

I was thinking of splitting my nights like this:
2 nights Satara
1 night Olifants or Mopani (which one?)
2 nights Skukuza or Pretoriuskop.

I know Skukuza and Pretoriouskop are the best basecamps for trying to find the wild dogs (right?)
As far as night drives, which one is better Skukuza or Pretoriuskop? Olifants or Monapi? Or should I completely skip Olifants/Mopani and stay instead in Lower Sabie or Crocodile Bridge for a night?

I appreciate any input, but please do not advise me on places to see lions, hyenas, leopards, cheetahs and other "big game" because I've seen plenty of them and I'm really wanting to concentrate on the stuff I haven't seen yet :D
Thanks in advance!!

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Re: Best Camps for Night Drives...?

Unread post by Albert » Sat Jan 02, 2016 8:13 pm

From recent personal experience:

We found Wild Dog near Berg-en-Dal (May of 2015), Mopani (November 2015) and between Orpen and Satara (on the H7, November 2015). The Cerval issue is not that clear, we recently found Cerval on a night ride near Punda Maria, as well as between Olifants and Balule (November 2015). (On the other hand we have also seen Cerval near Berg-en-Dal, near Phalaborwa, near Lower Sabie.....)
Personally I have only encountered Sable near Pretoriuskop in recent years.
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Re: Best Camps for Night Drives...?

Unread post by Imberbe » Sun Jan 03, 2016 7:10 pm

Hi

Good luck on your planning!

Firstly let's start by stating the obvious. There are no guarantees and any of these animals can be seen in any place or not be seen in a place where they are supposed to be common.

In my experience you have a better change of seeing the animals in the following areas:

Wild dog - Crocodile Bridge, Berg-en-Dal, Pretoriuskop, Skukuza.

Sable - Berg-en-Dal, Pretoriuskop, Skukuza to Tshokwane road.

Serval - Tshokwane, Lower Sabie.

Satara is a popular area for game viewing, but not generally speaking for seeing Wild Dog and Sable.

Given your preferences I would suggest the following. Choose one camp from A and one from B. a) Berg-en-Dal, Pretoriuskop. b) Lower Sabie, Skukuza, Crocodile Bridge.

I would not stay less than two nights in any given camp. So do not do more than three camps during your five nights.

I love Mopani and Olifants is quite spectacular. These areas are however not ideal for the animals you are interested in. At the moment there are only two wild dog packs in the North of the park above the Olifants river.

Good news: You are virtually guaranteed to see roan, sable and gemsbok in Mokala.
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Re: Best Camps for Night Drives...?

Unread post by Yoda » Tue Jan 05, 2016 6:11 pm

From personal experience,
The Lower Sabie/Croc Bridge road
and Satara/Orpen Roads
are good for dogs.

If I was searching (well I have in the past, but not seen them) , the Timbavati area (areas west of Satara and north of Orpen)is supposed to be good for Sable

Serval - not seen them myself, but have read reports of sightings all over Kruger.

Re your itenerary:
Satara to Mopani is doable in 1 day, but is a long drive.
Olifants is nice, especially if you can get a river view unit.

Mopani down to the South is a very long drive.

My usual plan for say six nights is
1 night Skukuza (easy access from Jhb)
2 nights Satara (sometimes Olifants instead)
2 nights Lower Sabie
1 night Skukuza

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Re: Best Camps for Night Drives...?

Unread post by RemiE » Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:02 am

Hi Tomeslice
My 5cents worth.
Enjoy KRUGER no matter the reason, season, where ever and whenever.
Kruger is legendary yet somewhat sneaky when dealing out sightings to its visitors.
For instance in our last visit we stayed in Olifants, went for a swim at Letaba and drove all the way to Mopani to rate the camp for future visits. Not expecting anything much other than eliphants, buffaloes and the Mopani tree but we we’re treated with spending time with a pack of wild dogs.
Unexpectedly, not even holding thumbs.
Then on a ‘wild dog search vacation’ we stayed in Berg-en-dal and were treated seeing them almost daily just outside the camp. And one day we decided to go leopard spotting towards Pretoriuskop and just after Jock of the bushveld’s birth place H2-2 a stately Sable bull casually walked across the road………..
Serval I’ve seen twice on the S25 close to Crocodile Bridge. During the day
I agree with Imberbe, try to stay more than 3 nights per camp
I would suggest Berg-end-dal for 3 nights. And 3 nights Lower Sabie. Travel between Berg-en-dal to Pretoriuskop for wild dogs and sable. Travel between Berg-en-dal and Crocodile Bridge for wild dogs and Serval and then from between Lower Sabie and Crocodile Bridge there is another wild dog pack and from Lower Sabie travel to Nhlanguleni Picnic Spot via the S34 to maybe see more sable.
I will admit, there was a time when I was concerned as to where we go in the park to see something specific. Disappointment was rife. Now I go with the flow whilst Kruger deliver its surprises.
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Re: Best Camps for Night Drives...?

Unread post by Tessa G » Wed Jan 13, 2016 4:08 pm

Hi Tomeslice,

I agree with both Imberbe's comment of nothing is guaranteed and RemiE's comment of to go with the flow. Kruger has a way of delivering the unexpected!!

We have just returned from a 3 week trip to Kruger and stayed at Tamboti, between Orpen Gate and Satara and had wild dog sightings on the H7 main road on 3 mornings of the 7 that we stayed in that camp. On the same road during our 2014/2015 trip we saw this same pack on 2 occasions. They number around 35 dogs and are seen either as a full pack or smaller groups.

We had a surprise sighting of about 7 Sable on the Red Rocks Road near Shingwedzi before Christmas 2015 and then again last week, 6/1/16 on the Skukuza - Tschokwane road, as mentioned by Imberbe. We reckon there were about 10 of them.
We had another sighting of Sable on the banks of the Sabie River between Skukuza and Lower Sabie on the 2/1/16. Could be the same herd. :hmz:

Serval I cannot help you with..... :(
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Re: Best Camps for Night Drives...?

Unread post by Friedrich von Hörsten » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:22 pm

Hi,
With the recent drought we saw 10 sable at P/Kop, and a group of about 30 (!) was regularly seen at the high level bridge crossing the Sabie river on the north side -- about 3 km east of the H-112 on the Salitjie rd (S30).

Wild dogs are very predictable...
Phabeni gate has a small pack seen regularly at the S1/S3 crossing and on S3
Skukuza has a pack seen often in smaller groups of up to 13 dogs on H-11/S1/S65down to H3 etc.
Berg/Dal same up to Afsaal etc
C/Bridge same...
SECRET -- follow them on roads... Check on SIGHTINGS BOARD for Yesterday/Today and extrapolate their movements by 5-10 km overnight... If they are seen in middle of day... they sleep till 1hr before sunset when it is hot -- wait for action when they wake up.
Check LATEST SIGHTINGS too.

RESULT -- saw 100 plus dogs Dec. 2014 and 50 plus in Dec. 2015 (2weeks each trip)... Could easily have seen many more but chose to see other animals...
Good luck.
I turn 60 in March and hope to see a few more dogs then...
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Ps. Big pack of dogs around Balule at Xmas too
Ps. Servals near Mlondozi dam in daylight...
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What is Sunset Drive V1 vs V2?

Unread post by DoggyStyleGifts » Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:26 pm

Hi folks, my reservations have finally been squared away by the park so now I can concentrate on activities. I want to book sunset drives in each camp we will be staying in and when I look I see there's at least two for each camp. Designated V1 and V2, etc with a three letter nomenclature after each (ie EMD, SSD). Are they the same drive? Is it just a matter of two different vehicles? Will both vehicles go out on the same evening even if there's only enough bookings to fill one vehicle (so if V1 shows 15 spots available ad V2 shows no bookings yet, I can book the V2 for my family of four and potentially have the entire drive to ourselves if no one else books that vehicle for that evening)?

Thanks for the help.

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Re: What is Sunset Drive V1 vs V2?

Unread post by Goggo EJ » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:14 pm

OK..... EMD = Early Morning Drive; SSD = SunSet Drive. V1 and V2 would mean vehicle 1 and vehicle 2. The first will be a 21-seater and only if that is full will the 2nd be booked. Depending on the camp that will be another 21-seater or a 10-seater. If there are few bookings then V1 might even be a 10-seater.

You can only guarantee a vehicle to yourself if you book and pay for a full 10-seater and make sure at booking you state that is what you want.
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Sunset game drive

Unread post by adhiroya3 » Sat Jul 23, 2016 6:52 pm

Hi,

Does the external sunset drive price (approx R390) offered by Crocodile Bridge Rest Camp include the conservation fees?

I will be staying outside the park that night and was wondering whether I need to pay for the conservation fee in addition to the sunset game drive cost.

Many thanks
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Re: Sunset game drive

Unread post by Goggo EJ » Sat Jul 23, 2016 7:22 pm

You will not need to pay any extra on the price quoted. It includes the conservation fee for external guests.
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