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Re: Wilderness trail choices

Unread post by Imberbe » Sat Oct 03, 2015 3:07 am

I would go for Mathikithi if I were you. :lol:

Sweni is brilliant in its own right and has established a reputation for excellent game viewing, especially given its habitat.

But Mathikiithiki is new, so is it's facilities. You will be part of starting a new experience in KNP.

As a bonus it is in the same general vicinity and type of habitat as Sweni. This is sure to rival Sweni for game viewing.
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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by tribal71 » Mon Mar 21, 2016 11:36 pm

Hello,

I can´t find so quickly an information I need.
The trail runs with maximum 8 peoples....but what happens if only 1,2 or 3 people book a trail?
Do they have a minimum number of people???

A shortly answer will be great.

Best regards from germany,
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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by Elsa » Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:04 am

Warm welcome to the forum Markus!

As far as I know and I think I am correct, there can be less than 8 on the trail, as long as there are some booked it will still be held.

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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by tribal71 » Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:56 am

Good morning,

a few minutes ago I got an answer by Sanparks:

Good Day

The trail will depart with 2 or more

Kind Regards


Maybe this is interesting for some people here.
For us it is cool...so we can book it now :thumbs_up:

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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by Elsa » Tue Mar 22, 2016 11:18 am

Thanks for confirming Markus and I hope you have a wonderful and exciting trail. :thumbs_up:

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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by Meandering Mouse » Thu Mar 24, 2016 8:16 am

kOa_Master wrote:Dear SANParks,

I've received the following form when booking a trail:
https://www.sanparks.org/docs/bookings/ ... ficate.pdf

How serious are you about this? I've never seen and heard about this before, never filled it out myself. What is this supposed to use except generating quite a lot of costs and complicated short-term-appointments at an "official" doctor? My doctor at home would not be able to fill out the "eyesight & hearing"-part for example, how am I supposed to fill this out seriously?
This is really not thought through and looks very off-putting.

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I am sorry that you feel this way, kOa_Master.

Are you over 65 years of age?

If you are over 65 years, it just makes sense. There are no roads, no ambulances, no immediate medical facilities. It is for your own good that you have a clean bill of health before embarking on the trail. I know that in a couple of years time, I will also have to fill one in.

If there is a hearing or eye sight problem, it is important that the guides are aware of the problems. It can be a matter of life and death. I have been in situations where we are close to rhino, lion or buffalo. All of these animals can kill in an instant. The guides need to be certain of special precautions that might need to be taken.

Conditions such as diabetes also need to be declared.

This is not being petty. It might save a life.

I you are not yet 65, it is new to me. Having been on many trails, I would not take it amiss. The trails are potentially deadly. I would like to know for myself that I could react quickly in cases of danger.
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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by Elsa » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:00 am

I am not sure if this is something new that has been implemented or the form those 65 and older need to fill in?
If new, it has possibly been brought about due to there having been problems and health issues of some trailists of late?
but other than that, its for all the reasons as MM has said in her post.

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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by kOa_Master » Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:15 am

Dear MM & Elsa,

First to clarify - I'm neither over 65 (still far away) nor have I had any health issues on previous bookings. This form was attached to a booking (Bushman Trail) of a befriended couple (neither of them >65) who asked whether I knew this or not. I have never seen it before and therefore asked here.

I'm also aware that a trail has certain risks and is physically demanding, especially for elderly. I knew about the >65 confirmation. I also agree that it is important to inform the guide (and other participants) about any signs of unhealthyness, problems or other issues that might handicap and complicate a trail. But isn't a personally signed form (as on Game Drives) enough?
I could not understand if this would be compulsive to hand in a less than 30 days old certified complete-medical-check-up. This would be beyond all common sense and absurd in my opinion.

I hope this is just a misunderstanding.

Thank you for your answers.

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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by Lesego » Fri Apr 08, 2016 11:23 am

Hippotragus wrote:Thank you tribal71 and Elsa.

Maybe, to avoid confusion and worry (and possible expense), it could be made clearer on the booking form that this is the case. I always thought it was only over-65's (me next year!!) that needed the doctor's signature, but it was certainly not at all clear on the form shown by tribal71. The reservation people also need to be brought up to speed on this issue.


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Thank you for your input. I have forwarded your suggestion to management and will let you know on the response.
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Re: Wilderness trail choices

Unread post by Meandering Mouse » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:09 am

Imberbe wrote:I would go for Mathikithi if I were you. :lol:

Sweni is brilliant in its own right and has established a reputation for excellent game viewing, especially given its habitat.

But Mathikiithiki is new, so is it's facilities. You will be part of starting a new experience in KNP.

As a bonus it is in the same general vicinity and type of habitat as Sweni. This is sure to rival Sweni for game viewing.


I would just like to give some feedback on the Mathikithi trail.

My daughter went on the trail with a few friends from the UK. They all give it a thumbs up.

They were most impressed with the guides, their knowledge and enthusiasm. They found the tents very comfy and the food excellent.
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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by Rivers2Run » Fri May 13, 2016 3:02 am

We will be doing a couple of wilderness trails in September, there is at least one person who is over 65 and I dare say he is in incredible shape puts me to shame. So he will have to fill out this medical form and have it signed by his Doctor. Does it have to be within 30 days of the trip? The rest of us can fill out the form ourselves is that correct? Some of this does seem a little over the top and confusing. :wall:

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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by Meandering Mouse » Fri May 13, 2016 5:03 am

Hi Rivers2Run :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Lucky you.

I should imagine that the main issue is about being alerted to any chronic condition or medication. Something like diabetes, or high blood pressure would need special awareness.
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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by Elsa » Fri May 13, 2016 8:07 pm

Rivers2Run wrote:The rest of us can fill out the form ourselves is that correct? Some of this does seem a little over the top and confusing. :wall:

Yes, that is correct as per this post

tribal71 wrote:Today I got following email by Sanparks:


Good Day

You can complete it yourself if you under the age of 65, only when you 65 and older that a doctor should complete it for you.

Kind Regards
Bridget


That information is ok for me :)

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Re: Wilderness Trails - FAQ

Unread post by Imberbe » Sat May 14, 2016 12:19 am

Rivers2Run wrote:... Some of this does seem a little over the top and confusing. :wall:


It might seem a lot of effort, but on the trails good health is a very important factor.

One member of the party with health problems will severely affect the whole group.

But even more important than that, it may have serious consequences in terms of safety and impact on resources.

Can you i.e. imagine someone having to be evacuated from the middle of a wilderness area during the night? Consider the effect on the safety of a group during i.e. a potential dangerous animal situation if someone has a serious medical situation?

Obviously this may happen to people under the age of 65 as well. So do take care! But given the impact of a wilderness trail (and with the back pack trails having the added pressure of carrying a back pack) the risk just increases with age.

I have seen trailists starting off real well but after a day or two being rather less sturdy on their feet.
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Age limit for KNP Wilderness Trails

Unread post by oceandweller » Thu May 19, 2016 9:13 pm

Hi! We (my partner & I) have been on 2 Wilderness Trails in the KNP, the Bushmans & Olifants Trails. Both were fantastic experiences. Now we'd like to do another. However, when I looked at the trails available I saw there's now an upper age limit of 65. This definitely didn't apply previously, because when we did the Olifants trail one of the people was 80 (he was the fittest of us all, too). Does anyone know if that limit is strictly enforced? We're now 66 but strong experienced walkers (last year we did the Pennine Way here in the UK, with several days over 30kms, over mountains as well, not the gentle bushveld plains). I'm hoping the 65 age limit is flexible - maybe people over that age need a doctor's certificate or something? Does anyone have any definite information? Thanx


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