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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby hilda » Thu Dec 30, 2004 9:09 pm

Dear Birders,
Please take note that this topic is regularly “cleaned” by moving the posts of a specific bird that has been positively ID-ed to the specific bird topic for all to use when trying to ID their bird sightings, and also to read all the interesting discussions about the birds while ID-ing them.
Should it be impossible for anybody to give a positive ID for a bird for some reason or another, it will be taken out, because it serves no purpose.
Go to Index to Birds Index to Birds and find the topic of the bird you are looking for.

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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby francoisd » Thu Jan 13, 2005 9:03 am

Although many of them are large raptors can be tricky to identify especially the brown ones and the young ones. If you have a photo of a raptore which you battle to identify, this is the place to post it.

Remember only Raptors here. If you need a LBJ identified go here and for all other birds you can go here.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby normana53 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:15 pm

I just want to thank all of the forumites who post their photos of Raptors, and all of the experts and experienced birders who take the time to assist in the identification of these wonderful airborne predators. You have helped my SO and I to become better at identification, and have provided a lot of enjoyment during the major part of the year when we can't be in a South African paradise. Keep up the great work that you all do! :clap: :clap: :clap:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Micetta » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:08 pm

This is a great site for IDing birds!

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Bokmakieriekie » Mon May 09, 2011 9:12 pm

I recently attended a public lecture at the National Zoo, Boom Street, Pretoria, on this magnificent group of birds. The topic was 'Birds of Prey: their identification and behaviour' and the presenter was Ulrich Oberprieler. This lecture informed us on how to differentiate between the various species, how to get to know the specific groups, their habitat preferences and interesting behaviours. It was such an excellent lecture, well presented, outstanding photos, logical and systematic approach with a very good touch of humor. Not a moment of boredom. (An in-depth 3-day course is planned in June / July 2011)

The lecture was followed by a most enjoyable bring and braai, with them supplying fires, tables and chairs - for only R50.00 per person at the time - a fantastic outing in the middle of a city with the calls nocturnal animals and the sight of sleeping penguins around one. Highly recommended.
If you are not living in, or close to, Pretoria, take heart - buy Ulrich's raptor identification guide - The raptor guide of Southern Africa, Authors: Burger Cillie; Ulrich Oberprieler (and/or the Bird guide of Southern Africa by : B. Cillie and U. Oberprieler) available at leading bookstores or http://www.kalahari.net

For information on future lectures contact: Tel: 012 339 2700 / e-mail: info@nzg.ac.za,
or Rubeena Sampson on Tel: 012 339 2775 / e-mail: rubeena@nzg.ac.za.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby arks » Mon Feb 23, 2015 12:45 am

I saw this lovely small raptor one gloomy and overcast morning along the H7 in mid-November 2014. In addition to the generally poor light, it was also well shadowed by its position in the tree. It was also positioned quite low in the tree, only a metre or so above the gournd. Is it perchance a Eurasian hobby?

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:43 am

Looks like Amur falcon with that barring on the sides...
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby arks » Mon Feb 23, 2015 4:02 pm

Thanks JvR :gflower: I should have looked at my field guide more closely :redface: :redface: (altho to me they do look quite similar, but i should have realised that it could be either/or)
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby arks » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:05 am

This one has me flummoxed :wall: I'd think that a black eagle would show both a white rump and a more distinct white V on the back, but that's the closest I come to what this bird might be. Am I missing something obvious? Seen (very far away) from my tent at Tamboti in mid-November 2014.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:47 am

Steppe eagle?
Whatever (according to BB): "You are correct but I don't want to admit it".

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby arks » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:09 pm

Bush Baptist wrote:Steppe eagle?

I suppose that's possible, but while I see that the steppe eagle may have a lighter patch on it's hind crown, I don't see that it would have the lighter patch on its back? :hmz:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Wed Feb 25, 2015 8:19 pm

Bush Baptist wrote:Steppe eagle?


I think Bushy is on the money...
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby arks » Wed Feb 25, 2015 11:50 pm

Johan van Rensburg wrote:
Bush Baptist wrote:Steppe eagle?

I think Bushy is on the money...

:thumbs_up: Thanks JvR. If you and BB both say steppe eagle, then I'm sure that it can be nothing else. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Johan van Rensburg » Thu Feb 26, 2015 9:46 am

That pale patch in the middle of the back is an occasional Steppe feature. Very helpful when they do have it. Together with the upper wing pattern formed by the pale bases of the primaries (a lighter panel beyond the carpal joint) and the nicely rounded tail, there are no other puzzle pieces (raptors) that get close to such a snug fit.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby arks » Thu Feb 26, 2015 3:20 pm

Thanks so much for all the additional interesting and useful info, JvR :gflower: I've SO much still to learn!
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