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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Fri Jul 27, 2012 3:19 am |
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Can anyone help me with an ID of this gorgeous cobra? Seen crossing the H1-8 just before the T-junction with the tar road to Parfuri border post on 19 April 2012.
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Legendary Virtual Ranger Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:47 pm Posts: 10377 Location: meandering between senility and menopause |
| Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:57 am |
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Arks, lovely picture.
I am no expert, but I did wonder if it could be a snouted Cobra. I would be keen to see what the experts say. For those who are interested, there is a lovely article on the 10 most venemous species of snake in South Africa in the current "GO" (WEG for the Afrikans speakers) magazine. I bought a copy of the magazine for easy reference, but it is currently at work . The snouted cobra feautured as one of the mosr venemous. |
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:44 pm |
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Thanks, MM. Hope the experts can confirm ...
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 1:13 pm Posts: 1191 Location: Johannesburg |
| Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:01 pm |
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Looks like a Mozi - Mfezi. Mozambique Spitting Cobra. I'm no expert, So probably wrong.
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Sat Jul 28, 2012 9:17 pm |
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Thanks, noel. So still awaiting those experts ....
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Virtual Ranger Joined: Sat Dec 16, 2006 1:06 pm Posts: 642 Location: Testing the sand, so to speak |
| Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:28 am |
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Hi Arks
I consulted my copy of Johan Marais book "A guide to snakes of Southern Africa" and my guess will also be Mozambique spitting cobra, but I could be wrong. But what a fantastic sighting! Very fortunate. Best regards Bennie |
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:13 pm |
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Thanks, Bennie. I've seen very few snakes in KNP, so it was indeed a very special sighting!
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:07 pm Posts: 10365 Location: Living in The Netherlands but raised in South Africa |
| Sun Jul 29, 2012 2:36 pm |
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Very nice photos Arks
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Virtual Ranger Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:38 pm Posts: 5264 Location: Johannesburg |
| Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:01 pm |
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Looking at the scale pattern on the head, I would say it's a snouted cobra.
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:04 pm |
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Thanks, Vinkie! Unfortunately these are the only view that I had of the cobra.
@Siobain: Many thanks! You sound very confident that it's a snouted cobra. I'd also read about the scale pattern on the head in my small and limited reptile book, so was leaning towards that ID. |
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:46 pm Posts: 134 Location: Calitzdorp, Little Karoo |
| Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:28 am |
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Arks
Just to confuse the issue I go for the Mozambique spitting cobra My reason for this is the pink colour under the chin and in Graham Alexander and Johan Marais Guide to Reptiles of Southern Africa it states : - "The underside of the hood is typically salmon pink with black bars"[i][/i] when talking about the Mozambique spitting cobra |
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:16 am |
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Thanks, PS, getting more interesting as the 'debate' between snouted and mfezi continues ...
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Virtual Ranger Joined: Wed Feb 25, 2009 9:38 pm Posts: 5264 Location: Johannesburg |
| Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:01 pm |
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The snouted cobra has subocular (small scales surrounding the front of the eyes) and postocular (small scales behind the eyes). These scales can clearly be seen in this photo. The older the snake the darker they become.
In my reference book "A COMPLETE GUIDE TO THE SNAKES OF SOUTHERN AFRICA" by Johan Marais there is a photo that is almost a replica of the snake shown here. The mozambique spitting cobra very rarely has subocular scales, rather, in front of the eye are upper labials, the scales that also run across the upper lip of the snake. So I am still confident this snake is a snouted cobra. |
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:29 pm |
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Thanks for all the interesting details about the snouted cobra, Siobain. It sure sounds to me like you're spot on! All I know is that I was very lucky to see this stunning snake!
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