Skip to Content

South Africa English - a guide for other mother tongues

Use this forum for general postings not related to any specific park or special interest, but RELATED to Conservation in South(ern) Africa

Moderator: Crested Val

okie
Virtual Ranger
Virtual Ranger
Posts: 1664
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:29 am
Location: Worcester , Cape

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby okie » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:08 pm

Moose wrote:
"Leeuwdril"



Oh , by the way , make sure you pronounce this correctly ( Leo-drill ) , because if you get it wrong , it may sound like " Leo-drol " , in which case the meaning changes completely - It means " lion turd " :whistle:
Tread softly , and let your departure not be spoiled by the damage of your arrival

Next :
3 - 6 Sept 2013 - Punda.
7 - 10 Sept 2013 -Shingwedzi .
11 - 13 Sept 2013 - Balule .
14 - 17 Sept 2013 - Satara .

picnic

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby picnic » Mon Jan 30, 2012 6:42 pm

Rooies, good question. :hmz:

User avatar
Bush Baptist
Legendary Virtual Ranger
Legendary Virtual Ranger
Posts: 9926
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:38 pm
Location: In the shadow of Table Mountain

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:25 pm

Moose wrote:The ones who asked at times like at leopard/ cheetah sightings or other amazing sightings,
It's the fact that "WAARSIE LEEUS", was never proceeded by any sort of friendly greeting- ever. :wall:



Ja Moose. But the guy at my cheetah sighting was from the Vrystaat, and was polite enough to say hello before asking Waarsie Leeus. :wall:
Whatever (according to BB): "You are correct but I don't want to admit it".

User avatar
Bush Baptist
Legendary Virtual Ranger
Legendary Virtual Ranger
Posts: 9926
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:38 pm
Location: In the shadow of Table Mountain

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:28 pm

okie wrote:No , BB , the "g" is silent ,( like the "p" in "water" ) :whistle:


Gorrit Okie! Like the silent 'k' in horse! :thumbs_up:

Going to bridge now and there are Germans who play. I will ask them.
Whatever (according to BB): "You are correct but I don't want to admit it".

User avatar
Son godin
Virtual Ranger
Virtual Ranger
Posts: 1636
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:03 pm
Location: Trichardt, MP

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Son godin » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:52 pm

Hi,

Just to add on to the long names a few year back before changing the road between Trichardt and Secunda a sign board indicated the turn-off to:

Trichardtsfonteindamontspanningsoord

Trichardt on its own is already difficult to pronounce so luckily the town is not called after its founder Carolus Trichard like his dad Louis Trichardt's town that got the full name. :tongue:

I bought a guide book from Peter Derichs on Kgalagadi and picked up some interesting info on the name's

First time I knew Morevet is Afrikaans from more = tomorrow and vet = fat.

The Khoekhoen names are not something I will try to help with pronunciation, but can at least explain the name now:

Kij-Kij = Big Big
Kij Gamies = Big lion
Mata Mata = give and you shall receive
Cubitje Quap = Aardvark burrow

BB,

The surname Kruger might originate from German, but it's an Afrikaans surname and I am sure those Krugers I met all these years (teacher, colleagues, schoolfriends etc) know how to pronounce there own surname. You might be correct that we are all wrong, because many names from German became Afrikaans and change the pronunciation. Like I said my own surname "Gerber" is most likely not pronounce the same by Germans.
KTP a place where you can quench your thirst

User avatar
Son godin
Virtual Ranger
Virtual Ranger
Posts: 1636
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:03 pm
Location: Trichardt, MP

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Son godin » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:56 pm

Bush Baptist wrote:
Moose wrote:The ones who asked at times like at leopard/ cheetah sightings or other amazing sightings,
It's the fact that "WAARSIE LEEUS", was never proceeded by any sort of friendly greeting- ever. :wall:



Ja Moose. But the guy at my cheetah sighting was from the Vrystaat, and was polite enough to say hello before asking Waarsie Leeus. :wall:


BB,

Give them a break, remember Freestate Cheetahs vs Lions, that's why he was looking for lions. :lol: :lol:
KTP a place where you can quench your thirst

User avatar
annapangolin
Virtual Ranger
Virtual Ranger
Posts: 746
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:46 pm

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby annapangolin » Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:59 pm

okie: GOOD TIP :thumbs_up: :lol: I'll have to remember that...

User avatar
MATTHYS
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 45035
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:30 am
Location: Worcester, South Africa

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby MATTHYS » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:18 pm

:lol: Loving this thread, Stark and ALL ! 8)

picnic wrote:Okie,how about Worcester? :hmz:


Okie ? :wink:


:popcorn:
aquila non capit muscas

User avatar
Dotty
Senior Virtual Ranger
Senior Virtual Ranger
Posts: 19661
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:09 pm
Location: another national park.. in England

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Dotty » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:26 pm

I believe sometimes in England it is pronounced Wur- sess- tur? :hmz:
Last edited by Dotty on Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
KUDU's mean Well done and Thank you

User avatar
MATTHYS
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 45035
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:30 am
Location: Worcester, South Africa

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby MATTHYS » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:28 pm

Dotty wrote:I believe in England it is pronounced Wur- sess- tur? :hmz:


Think so too, Dots :thumbs_up:
Not here though :wink:
aquila non capit muscas

User avatar
Dotty
Senior Virtual Ranger
Senior Virtual Ranger
Posts: 19661
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:09 pm
Location: another national park.. in England

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Dotty » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:31 pm

or possibly (here) Wooster :hmz:
KUDU's mean Well done and Thank you

User avatar
MATTHYS
Moderator
Moderator
Posts: 45035
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:30 am
Location: Worcester, South Africa

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby MATTHYS » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:38 pm

Dotty wrote:or possibly (here) Wooster :hmz:


Sounds good/right to me, Dots 8)
aquila non capit muscas

User avatar
Dotty
Senior Virtual Ranger
Senior Virtual Ranger
Posts: 19661
Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 9:09 pm
Location: another national park.. in England

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Dotty » Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:45 pm

Delene D wrote:Interesting thread. I am learning a few new pronunciations here. I am born and bred Safrican so I feel for the overseas visitors. We don't just have 2 languages to battle with but 11 official languages. Quite mad! Please someone pronounce that dam which sounds rude. ( Near P Kop)


Dotty wrote:As an "only English" speaker :redface: speaker and to avoid the "rude" bit.... :wink: I call it Shy-ta-larvay am I close??
KUDU's mean Well done and Thank you

User avatar
Son godin
Virtual Ranger
Virtual Ranger
Posts: 1636
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:03 pm
Location: Trichardt, MP

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Son godin » Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:02 pm

Some towns in Western cape have spesific ways to pronounce,

Think of Piketberg (Pi - kêet-berg), Velorenvlei (Vloor vlei), Velddrif (Vel-drif) and Caledon (Kalie-dawn) :thumbs_up:
KTP a place where you can quench your thirst

User avatar
Rooies
Senior Virtual Ranger
Senior Virtual Ranger
Posts: 2928
Joined: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:44 pm
Location: Welkom

Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Rooies » Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:23 am

Dotty wrote:As an "only English" speaker :redface: speaker and to avoid the "rude" bit.... :wink: I call it Shy-ta-larvay am I close??


It is more like 'she-tlah-vee' :thumbs_up:
Give thanks for unknown blessings already on its way---African saying
Member nr 8512
Cheetah supporterPURIST and proud thereof


Return to “Chit-Chat”