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Re: South Africa English - a guide for other mother tongues

Unread postby onewithnature » Sun Feb 20, 2011 4:49 am

Thanks Jazil. :thumbs_up:

Okay, here's another "SAnism" you'll hear all over SA:

AIKONA.
Pronunciation: Eye-Corner.
It's used when one wants to flatly disagree with something. A strong negative. Sort of translates into "never", "no way", "not on your life".
E.g. "Dad, I'm going out with Sipho tonight."
"Whaaaaaat! Aikona!"

Derived from the Nguni language.
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Re: South Africa English - a guide for other mother tongues

Unread postby onewithnature » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:27 am

Where's all the Saffies, or don't they speak the taal (language) anymore?

Until we get some support, here's another:


ANTIE.
Pronunciation: Unti.
Any older female figure to whom respect is accorded. An extension of the meaning of the English word "Aunty".
This is, most often, dialectical usage, often used by Indians or Coloureds.

(And, if we add an "s" to the end of the word "antie", it changes its meaning completely, and suggests a connotation that I cannot put on a public forum!)
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Re: South Africa English - a guide for other mother tongues

Unread postby CuriousCanadian » Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:52 am

I know I'm skewing the alphabetical order ..but what about sommer? I can't quite get how to use this word....
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Re: South Africa English - a guide for other mother tongues

Unread postby onewithnature » Mon Feb 21, 2011 1:24 am

"Sommer" is indeed a strange word to explain. It's almost like saying "just because", as if it has no particular reason for being like that. Yet "sommer" still seems to reinforce the word it precedes.

So, "this beer is sommer lekker" translates into something like "this beer is just so delicious".

That's how I interpret "sommer"; does anyone else have a different translation?
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Re: South Africa English - a guide for other mother tongues

Unread postby onewithnature » Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:17 pm

Can't think of any more "SAffinisms" beginning with "A" ... if no-one else can add to the list, I'll give it a couple of days, then move on ...
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Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Stark » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:02 pm

One thing I love about South Africa is the diverse mixture of language used for places and things. :clap:

One thing I hate about South Africa is the diverse mixture of language used for places and things. :wall:

For example, I had no idea that I was pronouncing Hoedspruit wrong until I was actually IN Hoedspruit. (I'm sure I still don't have it quite right)

So, in order to keep foreigner embarrassment to a minimum, I thought it would be fun to have a thread where mites can put up words they struggle with and see if they're remotely correct in how they are pronounced.

So, I'm going to start with my first camp from my upcoming trip.

Biyamiti: I say Buy-ah-mee-tee. Which sounds alot like "Buy a meaty". :) Am I anywhere close??
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Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby picnic » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:06 pm

:thumbs_up:Stark. :lol: Sounds like you want to sell meat. :hmz:

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Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Elsa » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:09 pm

I pronounce it Bee-a-mee-tee
Not sure which is correct. :?
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Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby CuriousCanadian » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:09 pm

:clap: Good one Stark....
I was lousy with pronunciation when I arrived....ZZ, SC, Elsa, Bennevis and all the wonderful 'mites I met at first helped me a tremendous amount.

potjie was one I struggled with until I heard it. Poe yee
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Unread postby picnic » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:13 pm

:lol: CC,and so we learn.

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Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby gjorgi » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:26 pm

Ai, I'm struggling to get this post through with my blackberry....here goes the fourth try hehehe. First of all, great topic I think!! Secondly, replace the "buy" with a "bee" and you've got Biyamiti under control Stark. And lastly CC, potjie is more poe kee....with the "kee" like in kareoKEE. Hope it helps!

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Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby CuriousCanadian » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:35 pm

oops.... :redface:

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Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby Stark » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:03 am

Glad you all clarified potjie...I was way off. :)

If this thread "grows legs" and we get involvement, I'll start putting together a glossary and place it in the first post. :thumbs_up:
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Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby arks » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:22 am

Cool topic, Stark :thumbs_up: I still struggle with some of the Afrikaans vowel sounds, have to remember that they are sometimes way different from English :redface: :wink:

And I've always been told that potjie is pronounced more like poi (as 'oi' in 'oi vey') kee. And while pronouncing it may be a challenge for us rooineks, eating it is baie lekker 8) (just showing off my 'pidgin Afrikaans' :roll: )
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Re: Proper pronunciation for SANParks travellers

Unread postby CuriousCanadian » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:35 am

:lol: Pronunciation key?
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