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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 1:16 pm Posts: 60 Location: UCT Zoology Dept. SA Hunters & Game Conservation Association |
| Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:13 pm |
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this is a ground agama Agama aculeata
edit: the first page one is a ground agama too and not infact a tree agama |
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Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:10 pm Posts: 1742 |
| Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:53 pm |
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Thank you so much. I think he is rather beautiful.
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:11 pm Posts: 2960 Location: Sunninghill(JHB), Vaalwater & Beauty(Waterberg), Grahamstown(E.C) |
| Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:16 pm |
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Looks like a female Tree agama to me, the one on the first page looks like a non-breeding male tree agama (yellow tail showing somewhat).....
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 1:16 pm Posts: 60 Location: UCT Zoology Dept. SA Hunters & Game Conservation Association |
| Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:17 pm |
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lol i guess we have to agree to disagree
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:11 pm Posts: 2960 Location: Sunninghill(JHB), Vaalwater & Beauty(Waterberg), Grahamstown(E.C) |
| Wed Apr 21, 2010 9:11 pm |
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu May 26, 2005 1:16 pm Posts: 60 Location: UCT Zoology Dept. SA Hunters & Game Conservation Association |
| Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:26 pm |
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Aaah, yes I do agree now.
I shall eat some humble pie - I was wrong, not only about this one but also about the one on the front page. Hopefully its not too late for chirinda to come back and get the correct ID. I have been told off not only by you but from a colleague who suggests that the main identifying feature is the black spot/patch on the shoulder. This is clear in both pictures and identifies it without doubt to being a tree agama. Ground agamas do not have this spot. my apologies for being an oaf ![]() |
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Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:10 pm Posts: 1742 |
| Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:11 pm |
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Correction, she. Thank you RJ for your input. Thought there was tree-climbing somewhere with those claws. Also the markings are reminiscent of lichen on bark.
Appreciate your help, both of you. |
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Mon May 17, 2010 3:01 am |
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Are these Bibron's thicktoed geckos? Seen in KTP in February 2010.
![]() ![]() And any idea what the little black bettle might be? |
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:11 pm Posts: 2960 Location: Sunninghill(JHB), Vaalwater & Beauty(Waterberg), Grahamstown(E.C) |
| Mon May 17, 2010 9:47 am |
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Id agree with the ID, the beetle looks like a type of dung beetle?!
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Mon May 17, 2010 12:59 pm |
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Thanks, RJ
Also, would the gecko eat it? |
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:11 pm Posts: 2960 Location: Sunninghill(JHB), Vaalwater & Beauty(Waterberg), Grahamstown(E.C) |
| Mon May 17, 2010 3:26 pm |
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Pleasure, the beetle may have been attracted to the lights?! The gecko might choose it as a prey item, but would much prefer softer bodied insects like moths, that also are attracted to the lights.
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Mon May 17, 2010 8:59 pm |
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Rusty Justy wrote Pleasure, the beetle may have been attracted to the lights?! The gecko might choose it as a prey item, but would much prefer softer bodied insects like moths, that also are attracted to the lights. Do dung bettles fly? Because the decks at Urikaruus are quite high off the ground. The geckos had quite a feast on the mesh windows of my tent at KTC — all manner of moths and I later discovered (from an entemologist I met in Darling) that those gorgeous huge critters that look like big dragonflies with trsnlucent black and silvery wings but only come out at night are ant lions?!? The geckos feasted on those! Wish I'd been able to get some pix of them, as I think they are gorgeous, and of the geckos feasting on them — you could actually hear the crunch when a gecko caught one of those big critters |
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Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:53 pm Posts: 1085 Location: Bloemfontein |
| Mon May 17, 2010 9:36 pm |
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Yes, most species do in fact fly arks, but there are those that don't for instance the Addo flightless dung beetle!
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Senior Virtual Ranger Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm Posts: 3761 Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC) |
| Mon May 17, 2010 10:38 pm |
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Thanks, PL. There's LOTS that I don't know about insects
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:11 pm Posts: 2960 Location: Sunninghill(JHB), Vaalwater & Beauty(Waterberg), Grahamstown(E.C) |
| Tue May 18, 2010 9:27 am |
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Even people who study insects, know little about insects (as a whole)
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