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Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:21 pm Unread post
@Oliver - This thread was started in the beginning of july, Jumbo had e-mail contact with you in july
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in my email exchange with Oliver in July
how come that you did not come out of the bush before?
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Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:23 pm Unread post
Cause SANPARKS is now relooking at all service providers. :hmz:


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Wed Nov 11, 2009 4:25 pm Unread post
Here is the absolute sense....


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Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:52 pm Unread post
Hey, arks!

I read the thread, and here is the most relevant quote from SANPARKS:

"This includes forum images taken in a National Park (according to the Protected Areas Act, SANParks holds copyright for any photographs that are taken in national parks, except for those who have paid the fee for commercial photography.)"

I think the forum part may have a leg to stand on, but doubt it, as it is pretty much public domain unless copyright requests are attached or superimposed on the pics, IMHO...

As for using pics taken yourself in SANPARKS for commercial gain, there is NO WAY that can be justified as requiring a fee, and is impossible to police anyway! Ridiculous! :roll:

I think that part may have more to do with shooting documentaries etc...


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Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:23 pm Unread post
I have removed links to all my photos as some butthead has taken my photos and copyrighted them as his own and is attempting to sell them as his own. I did get him shut down, but it is sad that the many have to suffer for the deeds of the few.


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Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:29 pm Unread post
Afternoon gslabbert5119,
sorry to hear about your photo's. We've had something similar before and got all the pinched photo's taken off the web.

Can you give us the name, of who has been trying to sell you pictures?? it would be interesting to see if he has been doing the same with other people.

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Wed Mar 24, 2010 4:04 pm Unread post
This is really getting to be a nuisance.
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Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:09 pm Unread post
How did you find the photos, and what did you do to get them taken off the web?
I have always been concerned about this happening, but don't know how I would find the photos.


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Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:11 pm Unread post
Sad to read this gslab. This will always be a problem
and we almost need to destroy our own pictures with
watermarks etc. in order to prevent this.

I was struggling to publish some very special photo's last night. For some unknown reason could not come right, just as well.

Is there anyway to prevent pirating, while I'm at it.


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Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:16 pm Unread post
For the moment it reminds me of dehorning a rhino.


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Wed Mar 24, 2010 5:18 pm Unread post
Same story HE. Differant picture.
Both terrible. :?


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Wed Mar 24, 2010 7:16 pm Unread post
A good Samaritan emailed me as he was going to buy the photo of my lion and per chance saw it on my photography website and wondered who the photo actually belonged to (http://photographybygavin.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) and had already seen the photo on this persons site.

Anyway I had my attorney friend write him a letter and call him (his phone number was on the site) plus I sent him a bill for $1000.00 for a single use purchase of the photo and also filed a police report which my attorney told him that we would withdraw once the invoice is paid. He has since removed my photo but we have screen captures and the source code from the site. (Site is currently down)

As you can understand I cannot provide any info on this butthead until all the legalities have been worked through but I can tell you that there were only a few pictures on the site (less than 10) and nothing else that I would expect to have been taken by anyone with any skill. I think that he was building up a site that had little or no content.

As for removing all my photos off the web, I guess that is near impossible, but as I always provide links to photos on my site, I went to my site and renamed the directory and presto an invalid link and you will not see any of my photos on this or any site other than my photography site.

When I post pics to Webshots I make them small, no larger than 300 x 500 and only use 10% quality via Photoshop Elements 7, so the pics are less than 25k in size and put a copyright through the middle of it, so you can do damned little with that.

I posted high quality pictures on the SANPark site with a small copyright because I and everyone else on this site have a mutual interest in parks and wildlife and we all share, and it looks like the photo was stolen off here but cant be 100% certain.

I do not post quality photos on Facebook or Flickr as if you read the fine print you are actually releasing your rights of all photos to those sites.

Hope that fills everyone in, if you have any further questions I will answer them if I can.

Gavin


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Wed Mar 31, 2010 6:16 am Unread post
Quite a few members have had this problem including us, but were fortunate in the last incident that the company contacted us for permission and 'reimbursed' us for the use of photos - no unpleasantness at all.


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Wed Jun 02, 2010 6:45 pm Unread post
gslabbert5119 wrote
I do not post quality photos on Facebook or Flickr as if you read the fine print you are actually releasing your rights of all photos to those sites.


Facebook is dodgy in many ways, but I'm curious where you got this information about Flickr. I've been a Flickr member since 2004 and have never heard about this before.

This is what Flickr says about copyright on their website:
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Copyright and Intellectual Property
Respect Intellectual Property Rights

Yahoo! respects the intellectual property of authors and creators and we ask our users to do the same. Yahoo! may in accordance with its Terms of Service and in appropriate circumstances and at its discretion, disable and/or terminate without notice the accounts of users who may be infringing the intellectual property rights of others.
Infringement of Your Intellectual Property Rights

If you believe that your work has been copied in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, or your intellectual property rights have been otherwise violated, please complete the online form by providing all the requested information.


Because I am an amateur photographer, I license most of my work with a Creative Commons Attribution-Non-commercial license. People/non-commercial organisations can use and reblog my photos as long as they give me credit. Most people do so courteously. My photos have been used by museums, universities, a cancer research organisation and a couple of other non-commercial or charitable organisations.

I have very little experience (just once) of people misusing my photos.


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Wed Jun 02, 2010 7:10 pm Unread post
Just as I post one of my favorite pic's on the eagle
thread:- Birds, this topic comes to life again. Typically
my kind of luck. I have been through this pirating topic but you know I took this picture to share with the world
and fortunately I don't earn a living from photography
like the professionals do, with all due respect. So all you pirates out there go for it, it's all your's.
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