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Legendary Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:27 am Posts: 5347 Location: Chasing down the rarities |
| Mon Jan 24, 2005 9:25 am |
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Here's one I saw in Jun 2004 in the Shingwedzi river.
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Distinguished Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:51 am Posts: 2125 Location: In a very busy place |
| Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:29 am |
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wildtuinman wrote I must say that I think the Letaba museum is most probably one of the best museums I have been to. Thank you SANP for such an amazing display of nature’s true wonders.
Danie, I am mailing you a pic of an elephant I have seen in the Shingwedzi River about 5km east of Shingwedzi in Jul 2004. Could you please find out if it is a well-known tusker and his name if any? Were they able to identify if it is one of the big tuskers wildtuinman? |
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Legendary Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:27 am Posts: 5347 Location: Chasing down the rarities |
| Tue Jan 25, 2005 7:40 am |
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Not yet Wild@Heart,
but hopefully with Krokedille's contribution dr Ian Whyte could do just that. It seems like we have the same one on different pics. |
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Tue Dec 21, 2004 12:13 am Posts: 292 Location: Wondering if I'll ever get back to SA! |
| Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:21 pm |
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Hi Wildtuinman
I heard back from Dr White this morning. He said that the elephant in my photo was unknown to them and, had his broken tusk been whole, would definitely be a candidate as a big tusker. He also said that he appeared to be in good condition and probably had some way to grow. He said that the ele would be added to their database for future reference. He didn't mention if this was the same ele you saw. I'm chuffed to bits to have had a reply and will certainly be seeking out those big boys up Shingwedzi way in future! Good luck with getting your beastie identified. |
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Distinguished Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:51 am Posts: 2125 Location: In a very busy place |
| Thu Feb 03, 2005 7:28 am |
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What is the norm when naming the big tuskers?
Seeing that they did not know about him, do they name him or the people who took the photograph? |
| Letaba - The Elephant |
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Distinguished Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:51 am Posts: 2125 Location: In a very busy place |
| Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:59 am |
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Hi Kruger,
Is Letaba (the elephant) still alive? I read about him how he used to come into the camp and the ranger had to chase him out all the time (untill the electric fencing was put up). |
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Guru Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:42 pm Posts: 467 Location: South African National Parks (SANParks) |
| Tue Feb 08, 2005 2:30 pm |
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Here is Dr Ian Whyte's answer:
Hi all I never knew this elephant and would not recognize him. As I understand, he was no tusker, so it could well be that he is still alive but draws no attention. Best wishes Ian |
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Guru Joined: Fri Nov 26, 2004 4:42 pm Posts: 467 Location: South African National Parks (SANParks) |
| Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:00 pm |
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More information from Louis Olivier, Regional Ranger: Northern Region, KNP:
I clearly remember the elephant and vaguely as to what had happened to it. For clarity, I have just spoken with Ben Lambrecht [082 xxx-xxxx] who was the Ranger at Letaba at the time. Ben confirmed that Letaba was unfortunately poached during the sorry days [1980's] of high scale illegal hunting from out Mozambique. The timid bull was shot and killed alongside Engelhard Dam and the tusks removed. Ben even recalled how a visitor once rested his hand on the tusk of Letaba while it was feeding through the fence on some trees inside the rest camp. An unhappy ending to well known elephant bull in our history. Kind regards. Louis Olivier Regional Ranger: Northern Region |
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| Fri Feb 11, 2005 3:05 pm |
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My family and I had the pleasure of sighting Shingwedzi in late 1980. I was very young at the time but i can vaguely remember it.... my dad took a pic of him, which my sister claimed and treasures to this day!!!
as i recall he died soon after that....... all i remember is that it was him and he had two escorts with him and that he hung his trunk over his larger tusk... he crossed the road and his head looked so heavy.......and of course... HE WAS HUGE! |
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Junior Virtual Ranger Joined: Fri Dec 03, 2004 11:21 pm Posts: 156 Location: UK |
| Fri Mar 18, 2005 9:53 pm |
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The Magnificent 7
The museum at Letaba displays the tusks of the 'Magnificent 7' and there are (or were?) still a few in the park including Duke I believe, but the original Big 7 were: Joao Ndiuiamithi Kambaku Mafunyane Dzombo Shawu and Shingwedzi I am not sure how many Big Tuskers there are in the park at this time - hopefully the Kruger spokesperson can tell us. The Kruger National Park's greatest Tusker of all time was an elephant called Mandleve. At his death (of old age), he was +/- 56 years old, and carried 142 Kg (± 315lbs.) of ivory |
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Guru Joined: Fri Jan 14, 2005 8:18 am Posts: 486 Location: Skukuza |
| Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:39 pm |
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Penny wrote Duke is alive and well - no truth to the rumour that he has died. Thought you would all be relieved to know.
Hi Forumites Thank you Penny. I can confirm that, as far as we know, Duke is certainly alive. I have heard from Dr Ian Whyte - the KNP's elephant expert scientist - that Duke is probably the biggest tusker in the world at the moment as KNP elephants are thought to carry bigger ivory than anywhere else. Just so that you know, Duke wasn't part of the original "magnificent seven" but was discovered as part of the KNP's Emerging Tuskers project. Together with scientists and elephant enthusiasts from outside the KNP, we are in the process of identifying the really big tuskers and invite people to send in their photographs of elephants with big tusks to us. If you have a good pic, send me a PM and I'll advise you of the email address. None of the original "Magnificent Seven" are alive anymore. You can get details of them at the Letaba Elephant Museum. By the way - Duke is in the SOUTH of the KNP! His home range centres on the waterhole called "Duke" (named after a ranger and where he gets his name from) which is to the South of Lower Sabie. Duke - who is known for his calm and relaxed way - has been seen as far North as Tshokwane and as far South as Crocodile Bridge. Incidentally, I have never seen him personally, but guests often send photographs of him to us and thus I have quite a collection of photographs of him. Trust this helps Kind regards KNP Spokesman |
| One-Tusk |
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Virtual Ranger Joined: Wed Jan 12, 2005 3:40 pm Posts: 302 |
| Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:47 pm |
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He may only have one tusk, but what a tusk it is:
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Legendary Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:27 am Posts: 5347 Location: Chasing down the rarities |
| Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:36 am |
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It looks like "Shimatsi" meaning left in Tsonga, I wonder if it is the same one I saw in 2004 near Shingwedzi?
More info please Acekam |
| Kambaku |
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Legendary Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:27 am Posts: 5347 Location: Chasing down the rarities |
| Thu Mar 31, 2005 6:56 am |
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Kambaku
The heaviest tusker of the magnificent 7 was crippled in the knee by farmers when it roamed outside the Park. Rangers had to relieve him from his suffering. He was never seen with an askari, always alone. His Tsonga name meant "big elephant". He roamed a huge area between Tshokwane and Croc river. Interesting was when he was examined after being shot dead many bullets was found in his body including a .22 calibre slug. Who the hell in his right mind was trying to kill an elephant with a .22, I wonder? Left tusk 63.2kg and 259cm Right tusk 64kg and 265cm Tusks to be seen in the elephant museum in Letaba. |
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Legendary Virtual Ranger Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:27 am Posts: 5347 Location: Chasing down the rarities |
| Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:03 am |
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wildtuinman wrote It looks like "Shimatsi" meaning left in Tsonga, I wonder if it is the same one I saw in 2004 near Shingwedzi?
More info please Acekam See this for potential great tuskers: Potential great tuskers |
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