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Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)

Unread postby Batmad » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:11 pm

Please tell me where to find this bird!!!

It sounds so common but is so elusive to me! :lol:

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Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)

Unread postby wildtuinman » Mon Jan 05, 2009 12:11 pm

Hi BM,

I have seen this bird in the Zoo lake area of JHB a few times.

I also had some good sightings of it at Roodeplaat dam in PTA, George Airport road, Haenertsburg town, Limpopo and in Kruger: Shabeni loop, Pretoriuskop. Close to Biyamithi.... sjeesh, where else? :hmz:
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Video: Gymnogene Kill

Unread postby Nico » Sat May 02, 2009 10:19 am

I filmed these Gymnogene between Olifants and Balule, catching a young bird out of his nest.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T0Y71YuMvU[/video]
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Re: Gymnogene

Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Sat May 02, 2009 11:41 am

Thanks Nico, rather dramatic footage :shock:
I also managed to see one raiding a Drongo's nest. The noise of the birds was quite exeptional. The audio in your video captures the birds panic very well.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby jb72 » Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 am

Hi guys,

This beaut has been around my house for a while now, and today was the first day I had time to fetch my camera and get some pics. I know they are not the best quality, but I would appreciate it if someone could help me with an ID.

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Any help appreciated !
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Rusty Justy » Fri May 15, 2009 1:07 pm

Juv. African Harrier Hawk for me...................(Just wait for the stones) :lol:
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Pjw » Tue May 19, 2009 1:17 pm

Hi Guys I recieved this e-mail from a friend who lives in Bryanston JHB. She is looking for help to ID this Raptor seen in her garden for the past week
I've attached some blurry pictures of this bbj (big brown job) seen in the garden over the last few days - but alas not by me!

Reginah (the domestic worker who comes from Northern cape area) saw it first in Friday - the birds in the garden were going crazy & she went to investigate & saw him swooping around the place. He landed in one of the trees and she managed to see a fair bit of detail. She knows that this is a bird she sees in the Northern Cape as well.

Description: bigger than hadeda. Tail not forked although photo gives that impression. Might be wing tips? Slight crown & flattish head. Chest white with brown dots - not bars. White starts under the chin. Long tail. "Fingers" on ends of wings. Underwing predominantly white with a "pattern". Legs feathered to the knees. Large grey beak with yellow cere. can't see eye colour.

I thought it could be an African Hawk Eagle but witnesses not convinced. Help.


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Can anyone help Id this one
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Lizet Grobbelaar » Tue May 19, 2009 3:37 pm

Pjw - Judging by the head and posture, this looks very much like a imm. Black Sparrowhawk to me. Could be confused with the imm.African Harrier-hawk which also has barring on the tail(can't see that) and a slender head with yellow cere.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Rusty Justy » Tue May 19, 2009 6:13 pm

Hi Pjw, my vote goes towards the imm. Gymnogene.....(African Harrier Hawk)......Long feathers on the back of the small head and overall giss.....Also seen them quite often in and around Bryanston.
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Pjw » Tue May 19, 2009 7:20 pm

Thanks LG and RJ
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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Rusty Justy » Tue May 19, 2009 7:37 pm

Pleasure....Hope we can get some confirmation here :D
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Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Moegaai » Tue May 19, 2009 7:54 pm

Well, believe it or not, I agree with your ID's! :shock: :twisted:

African Harrier-Hawk (imm), fairly common along the Braamfontein Spruit and in general Bryanston area.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Rusty Justy » Tue May 19, 2009 11:16 pm

Moegaai wrote:Well, believe it or not, I agree with your ID's!


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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby hobbit » Wed May 20, 2009 12:05 am

Moegaai wrote:Well, believe it or not, I agree with your ID's! :shock: :twisted:

African Harrier-Hawk (imm), fairly common along the Braamfontein Spruit and in general Bryanston area.


OK I've still got a lot to learn, but I can't see an African Harrier Hawk (Gymnogene).

According to PJW's description the bird is larger than a Hadeda, has a yellow cere, white chest with brown dots and a predominantly white underwing with a pattern. None of this fits in with an immature African Harrier hawk. Also there doesn't appear to be the extensive bare skin around the eye.

I haven't really got an alternative, but would like to know why the AHH is indicated.

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Re: Identification Help - Raptors

Unread postby Rusty Justy » Wed May 20, 2009 12:50 am

There really aren't many raptors bigger then a hadeda, except vultures and very large Black an Martial eagle etc etc......Of which this definately is not. :lol:

The dark area around the face, is the bare skin, Sasol shows it to be far more yellow, which isn't right for such a young bird. The dark seconary panel, head shape all add up as well, as the posture. The yellow cere is right for a juv. AHH.....I can't comment on the underwing pattern, as they not shown in the images......But the white below, with the streaking is not the typical juv. morph....but I believe there are various colour morphs in the juv. stage.

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This bird matches perfectly, (except for the white, streaked throat, as this is a rufous morph juv.)


Just my thoughts........... :hmz:
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