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 Post subject: Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)
Unread postPosted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 11:39 pm 
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I have seen this one close to Pretoriuskop last week.

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 Post subject: Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)
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Please tell me where to find this bird!!!

It sounds so common but is so elusive to me! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Harrier-hawk, African (Gymnogene)
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Hi BM,

I have seen this bird in the Zoo lake area of JHB a few times.

I also had some good sightings of it at Roodeplaat dam in PTA, George Airport road, Haenertsburg town, Limpopo and in Kruger: Shabeni loop, Pretoriuskop. Close to Biyamithi.... sjeesh, where else? :hmz:

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 Post subject: Video: Gymnogene Kill
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I filmed these Gymnogene between Olifants and Balule, catching a young bird out of his nest.


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 Post subject: Re: Gymnogene
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Thanks Nico, rather dramatic footage :shock:
I also managed to see one raiding a Drongo's nest. The noise of the birds was quite exeptional. The audio in your video captures the birds panic very well.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi guys,

This beaut has been around my house for a while now, and today was the first day I had time to fetch my camera and get some pics. I know they are not the best quality, but I would appreciate it if someone could help me with an ID.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Juv. African Harrier Hawk for me...................(Just wait for the stones) :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Guys I recieved this e-mail from a friend who lives in Bryanston JHB. She is looking for help to ID this Raptor seen in her garden for the past week
I've attached some blurry pictures of this bbj (big brown job) seen in the garden over the last few days - but alas not by me!

Reginah (the domestic worker who comes from Northern cape area) saw it first in Friday - the birds in the garden were going crazy & she went to investigate & saw him swooping around the place. He landed in one of the trees and she managed to see a fair bit of detail. She knows that this is a bird she sees in the Northern Cape as well.

Description: bigger than hadeda. Tail not forked although photo gives that impression. Might be wing tips? Slight crown & flattish head. Chest white with brown dots - not bars. White starts under the chin. Long tail. "Fingers" on ends of wings. Underwing predominantly white with a "pattern". Legs feathered to the knees. Large grey beak with yellow cere. can't see eye colour.

I thought it could be an African Hawk Eagle but witnesses not convinced. Help.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Pjw - Judging by the head and posture, this looks very much like a imm. Black Sparrowhawk to me. Could be confused with the imm.African Harrier-hawk which also has barring on the tail(can't see that) and a slender head with yellow cere.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Pjw, my vote goes towards the imm. Gymnogene.....(African Harrier Hawk)......Long feathers on the back of the small head and overall giss.....Also seen them quite often in and around Bryanston.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks LG and RJ

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Pleasure....Hope we can get some confirmation here :D

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 Post subject: Identification Help - Raptors
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Well, believe it or not, I agree with your ID's! :shock: :twisted:

African Harrier-Hawk (imm), fairly common along the Braamfontein Spruit and in general Bryanston area.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Moegaai wrote:
Well, believe it or not, I agree with your ID's!


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Moegaai wrote:
Well, believe it or not, I agree with your ID's! :shock: :twisted:

African Harrier-Hawk (imm), fairly common along the Braamfontein Spruit and in general Bryanston area.


OK I've still got a lot to learn, but I can't see an African Harrier Hawk (Gymnogene).

According to PJW's description the bird is larger than a Hadeda, has a yellow cere, white chest with brown dots and a predominantly white underwing with a pattern. None of this fits in with an immature African Harrier hawk. Also there doesn't appear to be the extensive bare skin around the eye.

I haven't really got an alternative, but would like to know why the AHH is indicated.

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