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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 2:14 pm 
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A collegue of my husband has been in Kruger a week ago. He saw this bird near Kruger Gate.
Any help in ID it? :huh:
Could it be a African Goshawk, female, A.t. tachiro? Or a Shikra juvenile?
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It seemed to have caught a Southern Ground hornbill.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Here is two more photos.
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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My vote goes to African Goshawk, not a common raptor in Kruger by any means and usually only seen in dense riverine bush. However, the markings seem to be spot on. The bird appears to big to be a Shikra - you can compare it nicely to the Souterh Yellow-billed Hornbill that fell prey to the goshawk. The chestbarring on a juv. Shikra would be bolder and patchier. Now what do the others say...?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I agree with JoelR on the female or subadult female African Goshawk ID.

I don't get all 3 images to load completely but:
- The barring is "finer" that would be expected from Shikra where it would more "smudged"
- Baring also more brown that reddish-brown as with female Shikra
- Baring don to the legs also more noticeable than with Shikra
- The cere also look more grey overall than yellow
- And size as mentioned

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Any ideas on this - we think it is either a juvenille African Goshawk or African Cuckoo Hawk. Seen 2 weeks ago on Mphongolo Loop, KNP.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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mattjh74, looks like African Goshawk to me, legs are to long for your African Cuckoo Hawk....looks a bit large for juv. Little Sparrowhawk. ..Also appears to have a grey cere, but im not toooo sure...Everything seems to match African though.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Rusty - thanks for your thoughts, I am sure you are right. Good enough for another tick I think!


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Well, believe it or not, I agree with your ID's! :shock: :twisted:

African Goshawk (imm), those dark-brown blotches on the chest. Legs too long for ACH.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Mattjh74 - This is also a juv.African Goshawk (we photographed it at Skukuza camp in March'09) because of size, the brown spots and note the white eyebrow which is also showing in your photographs, typical for juv.African Goshawk.
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Lizet

Thanks, that is a lovely photogragh, and I think fairly well confirms mine as the same.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Pleasure, now we just need nice close-ups of dark form juv. AHH and BSH. anyone??


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Great pic Lizet :clap:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Wow, STUNNING pic Lizet! Well done.


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Incredible! The details are superb ...

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks guys, 300mm canon


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