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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:55 pm 
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More help needed please.
Can someone confirm if this is a Wahlberg's eagle, altho the tightly feathered legs are confusing me a bit, into thinking Lesser Spotted.
Seen in Kruger this Feb.
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Elsa, I think it is a Lesser Spotted Eagle because of the "stove pipe" leg-featherings.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Elsa,

I believe its Wahlberg's Eagle....The reason I dont believe its Lesser Spotted Eagle, is that a Juv.would have the white cresent on the rump, and the white spotting on the wings. Pointing towards your bird being an adult. Which as far as I know, has yellow eyes in LSE??! But besides that :D I believe the hint of the crest, overall appearance and slightly baggy feathered legs.......points towards Wahlberg's Eagle. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks to both RJ and Yolande for your input,

A bit confusing, if I look at our notes, we did put it down as Wahlberg's initially and only after looking at the pics in more detail did I start doubting that. :?
I agree with the lack of yellow eyes and altho I was also tending to go LSE, but, now on studying the gape, the slight crest and the nostril, I am starting to think it is indeed Wahlberg's.
Pity as LSE would have been a new tick. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Would like confirmation if this could be a Steppe Buzzard?
Seen in Kruger in Feb/Mar.
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Unfortunately the pic is not the clearest, but the best we have.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Looks like Steppe to me....

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks RJ, :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Guys, I want to throw a rock in the bush here... RJ, sorry to rain on your parade, but I'm not so sure about the ID of the Steppe Buzzard. Not saying you're wrong, just questioning...

IMHO:

The "Steppe Buzzard" of Elsa is rather a Wahlberg's Eagle. The GISS seems wrong for a Buzzard. Sure, the light chest band immediately makes you think Steppe, but that head is an Eagle, a Buzzard would have a smaller, more rounded head.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Not a prblem Moegaai :lol: :lol:

I didnt realise Elsa had labelled it a Steppe Buzzard, I took for granted that what was meant was a Steppe Eagle, without reading further. Which Is what I initially thought it was....Looking again with the enlarged images, the nostril shape and gape, along with giss all add up with Wahlberg's....So your rock in hte bush, was well worth it! :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Morning guys, okay, I think we've agreed Elsa's is a Wahlberg's Eagle. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Ok, sorry about the confusion re my Buzzard/Eagle :wink:
but thanks for the help and the clarification, hopefully one day I can be as good as you are!

I have marked it down as a Wahlberg's now. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Here I am again :shock: after the last debacle not sure if I should give you pics of this bird upside down aswell! :D
Seen at Transport Dam today...posted it on the blog, but need absolute certainty to add it to my list...

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There were 2 of them...this one caught a little bird...

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Let me know if you need more pics...got about 100 of them :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Martie,
I would say it´s a Wahlberg´s Eagle, but you better wait for the experts to confirm it :wink:
Always enjoy to read your blog :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Martie,

I agree with Flying cheetah, I think it's not big and bulky enough to be a
Steppe Eagle, so I would definitely say Wahlberg's Eagle.

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