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 Post subject: Dinghy trips down major rivers ... what is the possibility ?
Unread postPosted: Wed May 06, 2009 9:41 am 
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KZN parks were offering similar trips on the Umfolozi river around 10 years ago , I wonder what are the chances of it happening in KNP , it would obviously be seasonal and at short notice after good rains upstream .

If so , would there be interest amongst the forumites ?

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 Post subject: Re: Dinghy trips down major rivers ... what is the possibility ?
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ndloti, I would be up for something like that - done it in Uganda and it was fantastic.

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 Post subject: Re: Dinghy trips down major rivers ... what is the possibility ?
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Sounds good, possibly as part of a trail or something?


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 Post subject: Re: Dinghy trips down major rivers ... what is the possibility ?
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This could be a limited activity offered by Sanparks (not private concession holders like safari vehicle operators) in a similar manner to day walks , when there is sufficient water after rains upstream .
Being transported by the stream or rowing , no motors , no noise , portering from time to time , total silence .
I have done it on Lake St Lucia , in Kruger would be exquisite .
I can imagine the Sabie river would be navigable for fair stretches , possibly Olifants and Letaba rivers ?

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Doubt the hippos would take to this type of activity

I think they might not like it at all, and this would be my biggest worry, all those rivers have such an abundance of them. :shock: :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: Dinghy trips down major rivers ... what is the possibility ?
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Out of curiosity (and as Ndloti made mention), which river would be most suitable for such an event? Sabie, Olifants, Letaba...

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 Post subject: Re: Dinghy trips down major rivers ... what is the possibility ?
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I think it's a great idea. I've done plenty of game viewing and fishing on the Zambezi and it's a brilliant way to go.

Re the hippos... Hmmmmm. I've always felt safer in something with a motor, as opposed to a canoe in the presence of hippos and crocs (although my friends did manage to sink their ski boat in the Zambezi once and we all had wade to shore!).


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I have thought of a few problems.

1. How do you get back to where you came from, if your whole party takes part.
2. If the craft is upended by hippos and the participants are eaten by crocs, how do they know which ones to shoot.
3. Do you portage over/around dam walls
4. Do you portage in low water/rapids areas
5. Would you do single or multiple craft trips
6. What would be the minimum age permitted, or the maximum.
7. What would you do for food, ablution stops etc

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 Post subject: Re: Dinghy trips down major rivers ... what is the possibility ?
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1) Drop off and pick up by Sanparks .
2) Shoot the one that is screaming - the one that the hippo / crocodile has in its jaws .
3) Day trip , so maybe 4 per dinghy who can carry .
4) This would only take place when there are high water levels .
5) Either
6) I would assume as per walking trails (12 - 60 ?)
7) As per day walks .

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Seriously what about crocs, wouldn't want to swim in those rivers with crocs in them

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I dont like the idea at all.I think if that is allowed the crocs and hippos are going to be moved from the river because if someone got injured that poor animals would probably be :sniper: .Imagine going over the sabie bridge and people on a dingy next to you.
People complain about fishing but not about this I cant really see a difference in that.Like it was said in the fishing thread what next?shooting impala with paint balls?next we know there are wake boarding competitions on the rivers/dams!! :huh:

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 Post subject: Re: Dinghy trips down major rivers ... what is the possibility ?
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Ndloti, are you se-ri-ous?

Are those in favour above seriously considering and supporting this proposal? :evil: As you may know by now, I am vehemently against any further human (read alien Image) intrusion in the Park - by angling rod, by boat, by dinghy, by ski, by foot, by surf, by whatever.

May I suggest that you consider the reformed, dried-up Mavumbye dam on the S90 for this event? :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Dinghy trips down major rivers ... what is the possibility ?
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In the fishing post everyone went on where to draw the line and fishing should be allowed.ok..so now I see that you want to move the line a bit further?next week further by 2010 they can change the parks name to SAAP (South Africa's Adventures Parks).By 2015 you can view game (whats left of it) from the tree top canopy's or in gages because its to dangerous for them walking around while all these nice adventures activities in place! :huh: :huh:

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From a practical point of view, I do not think that rafting in Kruger is actually possible. Look at the trip reports throughout the year and you will see that the rivers are either in flood or are flowing very gently with more obstacles than open waters. You will have to carry your boat most of the way. The Crocodile river may be an exception.

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My point is just the more and more activities that comes into the park the less wild and untouched it is.If you want to do dingy trip down rivers then go to that other places in Africa that you know of why spoil KNP?If more and more activities are going to come into KNP I would be the first (of many) who would consider other parks.The next thing you know everyone goes to Serengeti or Botswana's delta or masai mara.And then what would happen to KNP?I dont say this would happen I am just thinking ahead.There are places where you can do river rafting so go do it there and come to KNP for the 'wildness' it presents!!Why spoil it?

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