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 Post subject: Pretoriuskop Rest Camp
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Going to Pretoriuskop for the first time in June. What can we expect? What routes are worthwhile from there? Any "special" places to look out for?


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As far as one of the "current/previous ? residents of P/kop" mentioned, you can see the following "special" sightings:

1 ) Black Rhino
2 ) Sable
3 ) Reedbuck
4 ) Lichtenstein
5 ) Lion
6 ) Elephant
7 ) Wild Dogs also frequent the tourist roads in that area.
8 ) Kudu
9 ) And the usual ... Impala, warthog etc.

Reason why not so many people there as in other areas is because of the long grass, which makes it a bit more difficult to spot. But well worth the effort once you see on of the top 4 as mentioned above.

Enjoy... That area is my next trip ...

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The camp is one of the original and has much of the old charm.
Pay a visit to Shitlhave Dam, Mestel Dam and Transport Dam. Take a swim in the pool and do short trip around Shabeni Hill....Plenty Rhino there abouts.

A few years ago i met a student ranger there who , so he said, would take his Bible and go for a walk in the bush. He said he would never be taken out......mmmmmm


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Lovely area - Kobie Kruger said in one of her books it was the area she liked best- but not good for animal spotting because of the tall tamboekie grass? For years we firmly believed that there weren't any lions in that area, untill four years ago - we had hardly left the camp when five of them crossed the road right in front of us ! And that was at 1 p.m. !


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Pkop is an older camp.
There is a good shop and restaurant.

We saw rhino and sable on the fayi loop and buffs on the tar road to Skukuza in July. Its not my favourite area but it's all about being in the right place at the right time.

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Long time since I stayed there but have dropped in for bunch. Quite a cool looking camp - with fair amount of shade. Has a swimming pool for residents.
There is the Mestel Dam which you can sit at, various drives around koppies with pretty good views - remember wild dog, thino sable, roan in the area. Each time we have tried to book in there it has been fully booked.


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Shitlhava and Transport (Vervoer) dams on the H1-1 are nice dams to spend some time at. Saw Sable, rhino and secretary birds on this road at the end of June this year.


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leopardspotter wrote:
Is there any nice views (look out points),were you can relax when not on game drives?


I love the scenery.
Love the camp
Nice restaurant
Two nice lookoutpoints
Shitlhave Dam to Skukuza
Mestel Dam on S3 to Phabeni
And you can get out at the Phabeni picnic site which is nice
The drive on the S3 is very nice with the Drakensberg always in full view

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Pkop is one of my favourite camps. Stayed there 2 nights this year so far. Saw the all of the big 5 in those two nights.

It is one of the better places to see rhino and buffalo. Lion sightings are also very frequent. Read some of my previous sightings here.

Lovely rustic camp and awesome breathtaking views around the camp. There are plenty of roads to be driven. the scenery is breathtaking. Remeber to visit Jock of the Bushveld's birthplace.

The Shabeni loop is a must. For birders look out for purple-crested turaco and brown-headed parrots in the camp. Best swimming pool in the whole Park.

I love this camp!!

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Pretoriuskop is one of my favourite bigger camps. Definitely not for good game viewing, but certainly for tranquility and some "old-world" charm. To me the mere appearance of quiet calmness is the greatest power of attraction. The history of the camp also adds a certain nostalgic value (to me at least).

For sure Pretoriuskop is not known as the best game viewing area in the park. This is mainly due to the dense vegetation of tall thatching grass in the region - known to be quite unpalatable. The silver cluster leaf (also rather unattractive for most browsers) is about the most dominating tree in this section of the park. But Pretoriuskop is one of the best areas to find kudu. Sable is also quite commonly seen, especially in the vicinity of Ship Mountain (next to the H2-2).

Although not a mecca for predators like lion and cheetah, I have seen both species on various occasions in the area. Entering the park at Numbi one year, our first sighting was a big male lion between Numbi and Pretoriuskop. I had my one and only caracal sighting in the park very near to the camp. One of the largest pack of wild dogs I ever saw was on the H1-1 (Napi Road) ear to Shithlave.

The bustle of loops around the camp is prime territory for white rhino. The only black rhino sighting on my list was recorded on the S3 (Albasini Road) between Shabeni and Phabeni. I agree with Wildtuinman - the Shabeni Loop (S10) is a must. Sightings of klipspringer are about guaranteed on this road. It is also one of very few roads in the park where you have a chance to see red duiker (although I have never seen one myself).

Up to a certain stage one was nearly certain of finding common reed buck at Shithlave. (Wish I know what happened to this family). Big herds of elephant are nowadays quite common if you travel on the Voortrekker Road (H2-2) towards Afsaal picnic spot.

If you are keen baboon watchers (like me and my wife) you will struggle to find better places to watch these creatures' behaviours than around the rocky outcrops surrounding Pretoriuskop (yes, it is better than the Lower Sabie Road - also known as the Piccadilly Highway).

In spite of the fact that Pretoriuskop is a rather big camp, you will not experience the same numer of vehicles on the tourist routes around the camp as with other bigger camps. This is probably because of the many different routes around the camp.

Thus, if you want to see big herds of game - Pretoriuskop is not for you. But if you want to experience real serenity, mixed with some nostalgia and the chance to see some of the more uncommon species - go for Pretoriuskop (the warm and friendly camp).


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I have seen the biggest baboon troop in my life just ouside Pkop. Truely amazing how many there were.

What I love about PKop is that ghostly looking trees on the H1-1 close to entering the camp. What a feeling that gives you on a sunset drive's return.

Anyone remember what trees it is? :redface:

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Some of the stuff to be seen at Pkop.

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Hi Mollie,

Welcome to the forums ... Pretorius Kop is a very nice camp to stay at. I think the main problem is that the grass is very high in that area making spotting a bit difficult. However, having said that ... it's also the place with probably the best surprises and special sightings ... which incl. Sable, Roan, Wild Dog, Cheetah etc.

Don't listen to rumour ... Skukuza is not that bad as people would make it out to be ... infact, due to all these rumours it has become quite a gem for those "die hards" who stay there as you will find the camp relatively quite and peaceful. If you are thinking commercialised where they have a Fnb, Post Office and Avis, you can rest yourself assured that it's with the main gate and does not look anything like what you would expect in Towns. It's blends in very nicely and very inconspicious.

Back to P/Kop .. they have some nice Huts to stay in and as for the Napi Trail ... I've heard nothing but compliments and raves about this trail ... with no one being dissapointed.

Hope this helps a bit.

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Hi Mollie, I have mentioned many times here before that Pkop is probably one of my most favourite camps. Why do I love it? It is still that primitive camp which it was all these years. It has the best pool IMHO and is extremely big and quiet.

Birding especially at this camp is awesome. Brown-headed parrots and purple-crested turacos are aplenty. the camping area is divided into 2 areas really. One being smaller and closer to the fence. In summer I have heard in one night after a thunder storm which no other area in Kruger can compare to as pkop has the highest rainfall in the whole Park, 4 diff types of owl as well as 2 diff types of nightjars. That was one of the best experiences of night sounds I have had in Kruger.

Pkop is simply awesome!! Like W@H said, your more seldom seen animals are often found here. Sable, black rhino etc. There is also a resident leopard nearby and is very often seen.

The Shabeni loop is IMHO one of the pretiest in the Park. The crisscrossing gravel roads south of Pkop is very quiet traffic wise and produces awesome sightings of Rhino.

The Napi boulder is very good for Sable.

As for the Napi trail. You will not be dissapointed. It was just a pity that the old trails camp burnt down earlier. It had a special ambience no other trials camp had. But it is still pretty awesome. Wild dogs, cheetah, black rhino and brown hyaena have been seen on this trail in the past.

My main reason for going to Pkop would be to spot the Pennant-winged nightjar. This area together with the Punda/Pafuri areas are the only real places to spot them.

You have to do a nightdrive. The owls around there are simply awesome. Pkop being the oldest camp give you that ghostly ambience. Especially in between the stands of silver cluster leaves and the last strecth before you hit the gate. I would not trade a visit to Pkop for any other camp.

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Agree with WTM , it is totaly underrated and "forgotten" . Also perfect for a Gautengers weekend being only 440 km's - 4 hours drive away .

And don't forget to listen for Gorgeous Bush Shrike and try to locate and spot him . Purple crested louries and myriad sunbirds brighten up your days too .

In the decades up to the sixties it was the only camp open in summer hence the awesome swimming pool and plentyfull accomodation .

Oh yes , and it is probably the camp with the best ID marking of trees , both variety and frequency .


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