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Unread postby wildtuinman » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:23 am

Ok, let me rephrase.

I understand that Duke's tusk might not belong in the Elephant museum for certain reasons. Fair enough.

But if Harry Wolhuter's lion skin, the skin of a man-eater leopard and various other historical items can be on display in Skukuza museum, then why can't Duke's tusk be there as well?
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Unread postby Wild@Heart » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:59 am

Hi Oom ..

You've also seen the info .. but to share with our fellow forumites to also let them know.

SANParks appreciates the input given by the forum members on this matter. At this stage they don't see the benefit of moving Duke's one tusk to the Skukuza Museum. In respect for Duke they want allow him the decency to enjoy the last few years of his life without having his tusk displayed for all to see while he is alive. Once Duke has passed away. The discussion about his tusks will be brought up again.

Just so all our forumites also know. And from my side I truly hope you will all understand and rather try to enjoy the beauty and magnificence of Duke while you have the opportunity, instead of looking at his tusk and missing the true essence of who and what Duke is in the KNP.
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Unread postby oldwigg » Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:28 am

I am a new member and am busy trying to work my way through the forum and its topics.

I have started with what I know and can comment on as I have first hand observation of the subject.

I was fortunate enough to get both Shots and Video on duke about 18 months ago and read in our local news paper that he has dropped a tusk. I have seen the pic in "is Duke a dad again".

He is certainly a great animal and will no doubt be of a good age. Is it not possible to estomate his age from his tusk?

I also agree with the guy who was partly instrumental in the recovery of the tusk, that it should be on display as it belongs to the country's people and not SANParks.

LET ALL SEE IT !!!!!!

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Unread postby Elsa » Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:45 pm

Hi oldwigg and a warm welcome to the forum. :D

I am not sure if they can tell an ellie's age by his tusk but do know they can age them by the wear on sets of their teeth, and consequent condition of the animal.

If you would like to know more about the how, why and wherefore of when Duke lost his tusk you can have a look here
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Unread postby Mgoddard » Fri Apr 11, 2008 5:33 pm

I am sooooo excited to report that I have just seen Duke :D :D ..on the Salitjie Road, the coordinates..S25.03.44 E031.53.43

He was so calm eating and posing for photo's...

Will post some here and on the Travel Tales thread later this eve.

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Unread postby Mgoddard » Fri Apr 11, 2008 9:24 pm

Real goosebumps...I almost had an asma attack...

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Unread postby bentley » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:39 pm

Good one Mgoddard...lucky to see the old ellie. Will never forget the one & only day I saw Duke, it was my first ever visit to the park and it nearly closing time on the S28...strolling along while them tusks making their way through the tall grass. I was so excited & watching that I only got 1 very blurry picture..damn.
But none the less, I am glad to say I got to see the old tusker in the park. :dance: :dance:
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Unread postby Pjw » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:52 pm

here are some pics of Duke from 17 &18 05 2008Image
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Unread postby Pjw » Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:14 am

We saw him on the Nhlowa road(S28) about 6-8km from the turm off from the H4-2 at the CB end. He was feeding on the tree in the pics and we watched him for about 15 min then went up the road about 10km and turned back and he was still in the same place. That is when I took this rather poor sunset pic of him
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Unread postby wildtuinman » Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:39 pm

Duke should be in vicinity of 60 now, Doispane Male.


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Unread postby wildtuinman » Fri Jul 25, 2008 12:45 pm

Seeing that Duke has no intention to breed anymore at his age, I would say that one should rather try and make like a tree. He seems to love "rossyntjiebos" in particular. So much so that he gave his left tusk for some of it.
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Unread postby JustJuice » Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:50 pm

Here are some pics my brother got.
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Unread postby Bahamut » Sat Aug 09, 2008 8:01 am

Just read about Duke breaking his tusk :cry:

Sniff......, but what I wanted to ask is ...

Can this be 'Duke II' ?

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Taken back in 2005. He was trailing Duke at a distance.

Duke was going north on the s128 at high speed. Looked like he was late for a big tusker meeting. We parted company where the S128 turns back to join the H10. He was still going north.

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The reason I ask, is because I've noted a similar young bull in photos (taken in 2007) with him.

Can anyone confirm that this young bull still hangs around with him?

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Unread postby Peter Betts » Sat Aug 09, 2008 9:50 am

The Bull(s) that follow the old big tuskers are known as Askaris or guards...they do not necessarily grow into big tuskers themselves but who knows. Duke is the one big tusker I still have to see partly because I am hardly ever in his territory prefering Kruger from Balule northwards, but I have seen pictures of him on his own (without Askaris) and with up to 3 bulls in attendance...so it looks like they come and go. From what I can gather from JDH,WTM and Matthew who saw Duke just before his tusk loss and straight afterwards he was alone but they will confirm
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Unread postby Bahamut » Sat Aug 09, 2008 12:39 pm

Peter Betts wrote:The Bull(s) that follow the old big tuskers are known as Askaris or guards...they do not necessarily grow into big tuskers themselves ....


Yip, I should have said 'Could this be a future Duke II, we can only hope'.

Found the link to the other picture of Duke and askari taken in 2007 posted by Jose here.

That's nearly two years later than my pic and they look very similar. Note the notch in right ear on my pic, can't see on Jose's.

Would be nice to know...tell my kids one day this is the ele that learned from Duke. :D


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