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When asking for an ID

Unread postby Imberbe » Tue Feb 12, 2008 11:01 pm

When you ask for an identification of an unknown species, please give as much info as possible.

Do not just post a photo!

Where did you see this animal? (National Park, area of the country.)
In what habitat was it? (Rocks, tree, mountainous, grasland, etc.)
What size was it approx.?
Was it alone?
What was it doing?
What time of year / season was it?

Anything that can help with an id!
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Unread postby Johann » Wed Feb 13, 2008 7:37 am

:lol: LOL
Sorry gotta laugh.

Between myself and Deefstes we've asked this on numerous occasions and people just don't respond. Maybe we should start ignoring the pics where there aren't any info included? Maybe the people will then get the hint. Wish it wouldn't be necessary though.
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Unread postby Imberbe » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:28 am

:clap: Good idea ... wish it would have worked!

But we will battle on!

Maybe the mods could make the request a sticky ... might just help ... sometimes!

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Unread postby Snoobab » Mon Feb 18, 2008 8:02 am

Both myself and francoisd opened threads about this way back, it has been a problem for a long time and maybe as Imberbe stated it should be made into a sticky

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Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby leonine » Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:03 am

A bird thread I read somewhere stressed the importance of giving specifics on a sighting as well as a pic. Well - I'm a complete novice, both on this website and a slightly less novice as a birder and even more as a new digi camera user. SO, the pic of the bird - which I am shortly going to attempt to append to this post (after closely studying the instructions for Tiny Pics)- follows, after which I will list each detail as far as I can remember.
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Hmm - can't yet see pic but details are: Sparrow-size, on ground in front of rondavel at Olifants, during the day (end July). Back-view: two beautiful little black/dun/white stripes on head, most distinctive feature. NOT Cape Batis (I should know as live in Cape). Stripy dun/brown plumage - then (guess what?) it flew away. Story of my life so far as a beginner.

Feel free to giggle if you can't actually see the bird in the pic. I re-sized it first in the Windows Pic thingie - compressed it actually. Isn't the internet wonderful? No-one knows me, so I can make a complete fool of myself. Seriously, maybe a guru will be able to ID my birdie despite the pathetic pic. Any helpful advice gratefully accepted.
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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby Imberbe » Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:19 am

Ag, that's easy!

It's a Brown Hidemeseeky!

Our photo's are still battling after the upgrade. Can you maybe post a bit larger photo for the rest! :wink:
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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby vanalder » Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:48 am

I too am a novice, Lionish. In my view tho, you are certainly on the right track in your description(s).

For a few years, I've stuck with the below string for a 'standard' description (which I sort of say to myself when finding an 'unknown'):

CS,CS,BS,BC,LC


Or

Comparative Size
Color (or colour) Scheme
Bill Size/Shape
Bill Color
Leg Color

This little memory crutch has helped me ask for opinions,
or to look it up myself.

Happy birding.

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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby wildtuinman » Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:32 pm

Sounds like the possibility of a Bunting. Cinnamon-Breasted or Golden-Breasted.
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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby Batmad » Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:52 pm

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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby wildheart » Thu Aug 21, 2008 1:22 pm

Imberbe wrote:Ag, that's easy!

It's a Brown Hidemeseeky!O


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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby leonine » Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:10 pm

You got me there Imberbe, for a second - I reached for the Sasol, then realised a Hidemeseeky is your word for an LBJ :lol:

I had another look at the bird on my camera - remember I only got the back view - and the wings are a clear chestnut, head and shoulders grey, the 2 distinctive white stripes outlined in black. WTM is probably correct - a Bunting, but we'll never know what colour the chest is/was. I'm afraid I've permanently compressed the bird right out of the frame so can't send another. Clearly I need to do a short course on digital photography to qualify as a contributor to this forum!! That was my very first attempt at getting my camera to speak to the computer

Vanalder, thanks for your tips - they come under the general term of JIZZ - a new word I learned on our Kruger trip. (general impressions)

PS We had the most fantastic sighting from our tent at L Sabie one afternoon. I was on the stoep, when suddenly I heard and saw an enormous something with laboriously flapping wings flying over from the direction of Sunset Dam. "An Ostrich" I screeched. "Er, no I don't think so" said my husband. "It can only be Kori Bustard" !!! We've never even seen KB on terra firma, so, as the largest flying bird I've ever seen -- could this have been a Kori??
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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby wildtuinman » Fri Aug 22, 2008 10:28 am

It sounds more and more like a Three-Streaked Tchagra. Can you explain the bill to me please?

As for the big bird:

Satara is a great place to find Kori Bustard, so yes. If it wasn't an Ostrich, then it surely must be a Kori Bustard. :D
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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby Imberbe » Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:11 pm

And ... if it was an ostrich ... keep quiet about it, because no one will believe you! There is only a handfull of us that have ever witnessed them flying. :whistle:

We call them UFO's. Unidentified Flying Ostrich. But the goverment is surpressing the evidence! 8)
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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby leonine » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:43 pm

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Holding breath that the bird will now be visible. I'm excited by WTM's suggestion of Tchagra (sorry about bill not being visible WTM) as it will be a new tick for me.

Is Three-streaked T a commonly seen bird in Kruger?

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Re: Birding: Being Specific when requesting ID help!

Unread postby wildtuinman » Mon Aug 25, 2008 5:31 am

That is definitely a Brown-Crowned( old name was Three-Streaked ) Tchagra.

Leonine, yes they are quite common in Kruger. But I have found that they seem to be more conspicuous in winter though. :D
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