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 Post subject: What can't I do without a 4x4 in Kruger?
Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:06 am 
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You can't drive on the daytrip 4x4 trails as well as the Lebombo moutain 4x4 trail.

The daytrip 4x4 trails ain't even a real 4x4 challenge, a 4x4 is merely require to protect the environment and road from excessive wheel spin.

In all my years in Kruger I've never required 4x4 assistance, not even when we crossed a tributary of the Sweni river on the Sweni trail.

Most of the times the bloke behind the steering wheel holds the key. He can make or break the environment, the car and himself with his thoughts or lack there of.

SA beaches were closed from driving on purely because some idiots in their 4x4's wrecked the environment thru selfish stupidity and ruined it for everyone else.


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I believe the Black Oystercatcher is now off the endangered list as a result of them being able to breed properly again due to the rule that no 4x4's may drive on beaches.

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DB, if that's the case then it's truly awesome news. Where did you hear about this?

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- You cannot see over the tall grass (in the summer months) and further into the bush.

- You cannot see over lower vehicles at a traffic jam.

- Your ride on gravel roads will not be as comfortable, simply because your sitting closer to the ground.

- Lower ground clearence is a huge disadvantage on rocky terrain.

- Last but not least, no four wheel drive ability. If you have it, it's there if need be, giving you piece of mind.

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DB, if that's the case then it's truly awesome news. Where did you hear about this?

From someone who was telling me about Addo. The Black Oystercatchers are round along the Addo coast line.

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You cannot see over the tall grass (in the summer months) and further into the bush.

- You cannot see over lower vehicles at a traffic jam.

- Your ride on gravel roads will not be as comfortable, simply because your sitting closer to the ground.

- Lower ground clearence is a huge disadvantage on rocky terrain.


You don't need a 4x4, any vehicle with high clearance will do :roll: :).

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Heehee ... I was assuming 4X4 = high clearence vehicle (as in most cases, eventhough you do get 4X4s that aren't so high).

And I was assuming the question suggested 4X4 vs sedan.

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DinkyBird wrote:
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DB, if that's the case then it's truly awesome news. Where did you hear about this?

From someone who was telling me about Addo. The Black Oystercatchers are round along the Addo coast line.


Super stuff! :clap:


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DinkyBird wrote:
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DB, if that's the case then it's truly awesome news. Where did you hear about this?

From someone who was telling me about Addo. The Black Oystercatchers are round along the Addo coast line.


Super stuff! :clap:

Great news, indeed ! :dance:

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And I was assuming


You know what they say about assuming... :twisted: :wink: :lol:

Ag I'm only teasing :D.

I find it amazing that people visited KNP in the 1920's and 30's and back then there were almost no roads or bridges. The accommodation was rustic. And now we need 4x4's, cell phones, aircon, GPS. Man we've become soft :lol:.

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I find it amazing that people visited KNP in the 1920's and 30's and back then there were almost no roads or bridges. The accommodation was rustic. And now we need 4x4's, cell phones, aircon, GPS. Man we've become soft :lol:.

The evolution of Mankind. 8)

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cybeR@NGER wrote:
wildtuinman wrote:
DinkyBird wrote:
wildtuinman wrote:
DB, if that's the case then it's truly awesome news. Where did you hear about this?

From someone who was telling me about Addo. The Black Oystercatchers are round along the Addo coast line.


Super stuff! :clap:

Great news, indeed ! :dance:


I was at Kommetjie this weekend. Saw two pairs of Black Oystercatchers. 8) First time I've ever seen them so close to CT. :D

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I believe the Black Oystercatcher is now off the endangered list as a result of them being able to breed properly again due to the rule that no 4x4's may drive on beaches.

/Off topic, following the leader... African (Black) Oystercatchers are indeed doing better, but not completely out of the woods yet>>> NT (near-threatened) on 2007 Red List.

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DB is quite right, a rule implemented during Vali Moosas days, and something I thought was stupid at the time(Windgat lightie with a 4x4), yet now realise was a golden rule in the making.

Maybe Kortbroek will still do something worthwhile for the environment one day.


I have used 4x4 only once that it was truly needed, and that was to tow a kombi that had slipped into a muddy verge once back onto tera semi-firma.
Being near a herd of elephants made it fairly exciting to put the tow rope on though lol, my brother was ready to jump into the back of the bakkie if they came closer!
That said, if I am in my 4x4 , and the roads are slippery, I will engage it to help save the roads from potholes.


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