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Unread postby wildheart » Sun May 06, 2007 9:07 am

I've never seen a snake down south, only up north.
The first snake we saw was a dead one in the road, that was just terrible, I immediately fought it must have been someone speeding cause how can you not see the snake. (Maybe it was another reason.)

Then about 4 days into our holiday we came across this one on the H1-8. I dont think I have ever jumped so fast to take a photo like that day. There wasnt even time to focus. :lol:
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Image Dont know what snake it is. :redface: Also came across this one just in time to take a photo before he disappeared.
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Unread postby wildheart » Sun May 06, 2007 9:46 am

The best one was still on the S50. Because it was so hot during Dec we drove from shade to shade, stopping and sitting quietly until we have spotted 5 things before we move on to the next shade. You will be surprised how many things, especially birds we saw.

During one of those stops under a huge tree we had a frightening surprise. This stop was very quiet and we battled to see anything except a butterfly. So I moved forward to look on the ground and oh my word, there was a snake right next to me. :dance: Now, I love snakes but hubby is, well a bit, afraid of them. I told him to get his dvdc. and peak out my window. By this time the snake was right by the wheel, 'most probable thinking our car is a suitable hiding place', hubby uttered a couple of censored words which made the snake decide that his idea of a hiding place wont be a good idea. The snake turned around and hed for the closest bush and hubby, well, he is still recovering :twisted:
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I'd love to know what snake it was.

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Unread postby wildtuinman » Wed May 09, 2007 6:56 am

wildheart wrote:I'd love to know what snake it was.


I am not sure, but it could be a moz. spitting cobra. :?

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Unread postby amanzi » Thu May 10, 2007 12:24 am

I thinks so too oom :wink:

you can just spot the stripes on his belly
Kremetart country is great!

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Unread postby wildheart » Mon May 14, 2007 9:07 am

Bok bok wrote:Hey wild i think they are both Boomslangs - the green one im 95% sure and the smaller brown one looks like a juve - unfortunately the pics are difficult to id postively


Thanks for the id Bok.Image

They were moving so fast I was lucky to get a photo of them. Didnt even think the photos will be identifiable, just took the photos to have proof that I also have seen a snake in Kruger.Image

But I really wanne see a python. Well maybe one day...

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Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Mon May 14, 2007 2:23 pm

Bok bok, what makes you think that this is a juvenile Boomslang?
Do they tend to have this colour?

I tend to thing of the Boomslang as skinny, with big lovely eyes (unless you are a frog), and green.. and in the case of femals brown.
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Unread postby Bush Baptist » Mon May 14, 2007 3:14 pm

WARNING

Please people be careful of snakes while you are driving. If you stop near one KEEP AN EYE ON IT AT ALL TIMES.

They look for shade and your vehicle might be very attractive. They have a habit of zipping up into your undercarriage if they can.

It is a devil of a job to get them out after that. There are some unhappy stories on the forum including one where the snake was removed from the roof lining eventually!

The best prevention is to be alert and drive off if they approach closely.
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Unread postby Bok bok » Mon May 14, 2007 3:23 pm

Hi Meandering Mouse

Boomslangs are one of the hardest snakes in S.A to identify on colour becuase they have so many different colour variations - you can only really tell by seeing the head of the snake - the first pics seem to have the shape of the boomslangs head the second snake which is brown to be fair could be any snake even a brown house snake - Boomslangs juve's tend to be brown on the top and varying colours (blueish) underneath especially under the head. Just on the pic the shape seems to be similiar to he top ones which is why i thought boomslang - very difficult if not impossible to make any sort of positive ID - Pilane would probably be better to try - hope that helps.

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Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Mon May 14, 2007 5:43 pm

For me, the large eyes and very skinny body have always stood out, but maybe I am mistaken in that.

Thank goodness they are shy, (I hope), and back fanged snakes.

In one of my previous postings I wrote about how I nearly stood on a young Boomslang at Lower Sabie. I do think that even if I had, he would not have been able to bite me in a way to inject venom.
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Unread postby BUILLAS » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:03 pm

Would somebody be abble to answer us ? watching some vidéos, we had made in the kruger park few years ago; we are wondering what's kind of animals we had met, closer to Skukusa, 10:30 in the morning, middle of the road. It 's look like a snake, 1.20 meter long, diam of the body 70 mm, silver/black shiny, but no head. I'm explainning; the "allien" moved like a snake, but have no eyes, no nose; no mouth on what could be the front! A sort of "big groung worms".
to prevent any sarcastics questions : we had not taken any druggs, S.A alcool (manpoor ?), and we had spend a good night. Thank you for your support.

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Unread postby Marc D » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:13 am

probably a blind snake (Rhinotyphlops schlegelii) ??

it's look like a big worm...

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Unread postby Bush Baptist » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:01 pm

Marc D wrote:When we walk with the guides, this is possible to see some snakes or they (guides) avoid them because some peoples are afraid of that ???
No, just tell the guide. He will not endanger anyone, but if there are snakes or reptiles he will show you

Marc D wrote:At the camps, I think the electric fences it's only for the bigs mammals, so, this is possible to see some snakes in the camps ???!!!)
Yes, at night you have to walk with a torch(flashlight). In winter snakes hibernate, but in summer it is possible to come across some.

Marc D wrote:I have a '' TOP 10 '' of some animals I hope to photograph at KNP:

10- Nile Monitor
9- Ground Hornbill
8- Greater Kudu
7- Hyena
6- Lions
5- Hippos
4- Elephants
3- Whith Rhinos
2- Crocodiles
1- Puff Adders (I really like vipers !!!)


10- We have rock & water monitors in Kruger, which you should see, 99% chance
9- 75%
8- 99%
7- 90%
6- 99%
5- 99%
4- 99%
3- 90%
2- 99%
1- 10%

All the 99% I have never missed in Kruger, but you could be very unlucky or lucky.

Croc Bridge is an excellent choice of camp. You might also see wild dog & leopard in that area also.
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Unread postby Mfezi » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:24 pm

Seeing that I don't know where to mention about all the other snake sightings I've had in the Kruger, I thought this would be the best place. (I'm new to the forum so my apologies if someone think this is the wrong place.)

So here we go:

October 1995:

Schlegel's Blind Snake = H1-1 after some rains - Dead on Road

September/October 1996:

During a night drive from Letaba we saw more snakes on the road than animals. All these sightings were norht of Letaba Camp.

Stiletto x2
Brown House Snake x2
Common Egg eater
Adult Zambezi Garter Snake ([i]Elapsoidea boulengeri[/i])
Mozambique Spitting Cobra

May /June 1999:

Black Mamba in a tree inside Letaba camp
Western Striped bellied Sand snake - Dead on Road
Olive Grass Snake - Dead on Road
Rufous Beaked Snake - Dead on Road
Boomslang (Green) - Dead on Road
Common Egg Eater - Dead on Road
Striped Skaapsteker - Dead on Road
Twig snake - Dead on Road
Boomslang x 3
Puff adder x3
Twig Snake
Mozambique Spitting Cobra - H4-2

April 2001:

Schlegel's Blind Snake - S21
Snouted Cobra

September 2006:

Western Striped Bellied Sand Snake - Dead on the road
Striped Skaapstekers Alive and Dead on the Road
Mopani snake - Dead on the road
Twig snakes - Alive and Dead on the road - big one!!
Black Mamba - Mativuhlungu Road - S82

I believe that I can't complain after having all these sightings and I'm glad I could have shared it with everyone.


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Unread postby Meandering Mouse » Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:12 am

Mfezi, it sounds as though you know your snakes.

It is sad that so many of your sightings have been road kill.
I notice that most of your dead snakes were in May. I wonder if this was due to them using the tar as a way to regulate their temperatures as the night got colder.
I know that when I go out for my early morning drives I am particularly cautious about snakes.
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Unread postby LEIGHVLASSO » Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:12 am

I am officially and proudly a bunny hugger of note - and as much as i am a huge kruger fanatic and an animal obsessive the one thing i know myself i could not cope with is a kill. i know it is a part of nature and that it needs to occur and i am 100% okay with that...i just cant watch :shock:

We have often seen lions, leopard etc eating a kill and i am fine with that but just cant watch one (this includes to my fiance's dismay those on animal planet, nat geo etc).
We have been near witness to 3 kills in the park and on all 3 occasions i have found myself on the floor of the car with a pillow on my head singing anything not to hear a thing. :tongue:

so i proudly post the only kill i have bared to witness - although through teary eyes - on the hill up towards olifant camps gate...........
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Bare with me people maybe in the years to come i'll get better!!!!
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