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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
Unread postPosted: Tue May 14, 2013 3:08 pm 
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Hello to all Tuskerites !

We are just back from a 10 day Kruger elephant safari - and what a safari it has been !

We found several "tuskers" - below is one of them.

This one we found late in the afternoon coming out of the S144 and turning south on the H1-6 towards Mopani and Tsendze where we were camping.

As I changed into 2nd gear this bull emerged out of the bush :-

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Note the ragged lower edge on his left ear and those tusks !

He had a young askari with him and this photo shows how huge this bull really was :-

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Note the deep depressions on his temples, also that he still has plenty of tail tuft hair left - maybe 45 - 50 years old ?

The next photo shows his right ear markings - a smallish notch and the lower tip of the ear lobe torn off earlier in life :-

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I tried to ID this bull from the photos on Aat's TUSKERSOFAFRICA but no - he did not match any !

Initially I thought he might have been Tsotsi, but unless Tsotsi has picked-up the new LH ear damage this is not the ID solution.

Aat, please have a look and advise if you can ID him.

Lettie and Gerrie.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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WendyA,
Thanks for sending the pictures and allthough it was late at night I decided to add MaTimba to the site.
So ... Matimba is now one of the (female) tuskers to search for :) :)
If you like you can have a look

http://www.tuskersofafrica.com/tuskersnp/matimba.htm

WendyA wrote:
Hi Aat!

HOW EXCITING that we've got a new tusker! MaTimba - lovely!!!

I will definitely send you the pics in larger format to your tusker address later this evening.

Many thanks for your help. This has made my day - I will have a constant, silly, "new tusker" smile on my face all day!!!

:D :D :D

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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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100ponder...
Great catch but can't ID him either now.
Will have a look at the pictures I have in my database to see he is "familiar" , otherwise I think we have a nother new one.
Wonderful to hear you found some tuskers, so curious about the other ones :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:
About Tsotsi... I haven't heard about him for a long long time so I don't know if he is still alive... do you have any news about him. Nomally he is frequently seen around Letaba but did not see any sighting / post here of him.

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Hello to all Tuskerites !

I tried to ID this bull from the photos on Aat's TUSKERSOFAFRICA but no - he did not match any !

Initially I thought he might have been Tsotsi, but unless Tsotsi has picked-up the new LH ear damage this is not the ID solution.

Aat, please have a look and advise if you can ID him.

Lettie and Gerrie.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers ID needed,can you help?
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I took pictures of this Elephant on 24 Dec 2012 at the Tihongonyeni waterhole.
I have tried to ID him but just cant seem to get it spot on. I know the pictures are not the best, but maybe someone could help. Thanx
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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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Whow Wildkyker - that sure is a impressive tusker you found at Tihongonyeni. That area certainly have quite a few big bulls showing themselves every now and then !


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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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On 07/05/2013 we saw this bull a short distance south of Komana dam along the H1-3.

Looking at his ear markings I am quite certain he is Nwatimbuti.
The stump of his broken tusk is some 15 - 20 cm longer than the Magda van Wyk photos
on Aat's TUSKERSOFAFRICA web site which is acceptable as 3 years have passed since
the Magda van Wyk photos where taken.

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Aat, do you agreee with my ID as it is quite far south of where Nwatimbuti was originally sited ?


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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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Thank you 100 Ponder. Ja nee kyk dit bly darem maar mooi om hulle so groot te sien. Any idea on an ID?


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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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Hi Wildkyker,

Looks like you found Malopenyana - but not 100% sure.

Aat, what do you think ?

Gerrie.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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Wildkyker and 100ponder,
I checked your pictures with my own pics of Malopenyana and can confirm that you found this tusker.
So Malopenyana is on your "hitlist" now. :thumbs_up: :thumbs_up:

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Thank you 100 Ponder. Ja nee kyk dit bly darem maar mooi om hulle so groot te sien. Any idea on an ID?

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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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100ponder,
I really doubt that it is Nwatimbuti.
Main reason is the broken tusk, looking at his pictures in larger format the "way it is broken" is very diffrent then the left tusk on your pics. The broken tusk also looks thinner then on the pictures I have. Another thing is the location...much more south then Nwatimbuti (allthough this is possible).
Let's say I am not sure and not convinced. If I can find a bit more time I will have a look at my database with many other pictures and see I can find a match. When I look at the broken tusk it comes to me that it has been broken not that long ago... "sharp / fresh broken signs" , maybe a tusker who broke his left tusk more recently..??

100ponder wrote:
On 07/05/2013 we saw this bull a short distance south of Komana dam along the H1-3.

Looking at his ear markings I am quite certain he is Nwatimbuti.
The stump of his broken tusk is some 15 - 20 cm longer than the Magda van Wyk photos
on Aat's TUSKERSOFAFRICA web site which is acceptable as 3 years have passed since
the Magda van Wyk photos where taken.


Aat, do you agreee with my ID as it is quite far south of where Nwatimbuti was originally sited ?

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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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We also found this tusker first rolling on the sandbank
of the Shingwedzi river and then strolling down to the
water, he kicked a hollow in the river sand close to the
water's edge and then quenching his thirst from the
crystal clear water that seeped into the shallow well.

[ We noticed this behaviour several times during the
days in KNP - could it be that the elephant dislike the
taste of the free river water that has algae growing
in it ? ]

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This tusker was seen aprox 5 km south of Shingwedzi.

This tusker's tusks are not all THAT long, but
combined with being notably thicher than the
average, he might very well qualify as a tusker
on Aat's website.

Aat, what do you think ?

Lettie and Gerrie.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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On the 6th May 2013 we chose to drive the Tsendze Loop [ S48 ] and aprox halfway through we found this bull grazing all by himself.

Unfortunately he never offered a proper LH view but the first photo below suggests a clean LH ear.

His magnificent curved tusks surely are big enough to make him a strong contender to be a "tusker" on Aat's
TUSKERSOFAFRICA website as I am unable to match him with any of the current listed tuskers.

The grass notch on his RH tusk and the peculiar kinking of his tail are very distinct ID marks.

Aat, what do you think ? Another "new tusker" ?

Lettie and Gerrie.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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I have a request to make. Is it at all possible for people to post slightly smaller photos in this thread? The problem is mine, but it takes so long for the page to download and it keeps flicking backwards all the time as the pics come on. . . .


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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
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100ponder,
I think this is a promising tusker , agree with you about his tusks, not that long yet but thick (typical for most shingwedzi tuskers). I think he will devellop like another tusker Riceho.

Also looked at the pics of Tsendze (s48) and I don't know. Looking at the database with bulls in Mopani area there are several with promising tusks. That's very good to see and I am happy about that. Tusks of this one don't look thick and "problem or question" I am running into is : What makes me decide to have a bull / promising tusker at the tusker site. Not easy to give an answer to myself for a nice number I have in my database today. At the moment I think the one you have seen near Shingwedzi is "ready" to have on the site.
Like to ask you to send the pictures so I can add them to the database and try to find out with comparing several promising ones "who" to add and "who" to keep for a while...


100ponder wrote:
We also found this tusker first rolling on the sandbank
of the Shingwedzi river and then strolling down to the
water, he kicked a hollow in the river sand close to the
water's edge and then quenching his thirst from the
crystal clear water that seeped into the shallow well.

[ We noticed this behaviour several times during the
days in KNP - could it be that the elephant dislike the
taste of the free river water that has algae growing
in it ? ]
This tusker was seen aprox 5 km south of Shingwedzi.

This tusker's tusks are not all THAT long, but
combined with being notably thicher than the
average, he might very well qualify as a tusker
on Aat's website.

Aat, what do you think ?

Lettie and Gerrie.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Tuskers
Unread postPosted: Wed May 22, 2013 12:07 pm 
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OK Aat, photos of the broken tusk bull and Kaleka is on their way to you.

I must still prepare Kaleka and the Shingwedzi bull photos for this tread and also some photos of even more exceptional tuskers who did not give us opportunity for good photos - so they will not be contenders for the TUSKERSOFAFRICA web site but they are still wonderfully good tuskers !

The Shingwedzi bull's photos for our TUSKERSOFAFRICA use should reach you in a day or so.

Gerrie.


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