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 Post subject: Re: Shrike: Common Fiscal
Unread postPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 8:49 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Hello again :)

I have posted my TR about KTP http://www.sanparks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=64645

and there is one question about this photo:

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I said Brubru because of the reddish patch and the white line on the back. Someone said Fiscal, and then Elsa said maybe Latakoo Fiscal :hmz:

Thanks for your input :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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WackoRhino wrote:
Hello again :)

I have posted my TR about KTP http://www.sanparks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=64645

and there is one question about this photo:

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I said Brubru because of the reddish patch and the white line on the back. Someone said Fiscal, and then Elsa said maybe Latakoo Fiscal :hmz:

Thanks for your input :thumbs_up:


Hi WR,
Your shrike is a Brubru, as it is the only shrike with a pronounced white eyebrow and black cap, other than the Black-crowned Tchagra. The latter can be discounted on the basis of its plumage colouring and size. Plumage as with a lot of birds will vary from region to region.
I hope that this helps.
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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WackoRhino wrote:
Hello again :)

I have posted my TR about KTP http://www.sanparks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=64645

and there is one question about this photo:

I said Brubru because of the reddish patch and the white line on the back. Someone said Fiscal, and then Elsa said maybe Latakoo Fiscal :hmz:

Thanks for your input :thumbs_up:

Hi WR,
I think that you've got a Common Fiscal here. The subcoronatus sub-species is found towards the drier north-west of the country and they have the white supercilium from the forehead to behind the ear coverts. The giss is not right for Brubru (to me anyway). They tend to look a bit more 'plump' and have a bit more of a mottled black & white appearance on the back. The tail also looks to long for Brubru.
I see from some googling that subcoronatus is also called the Latakoo Fiscal in some areas.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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I think that you've got a Common Fiscal here.



He doesn't "think" so, Johann knows you've got a Common Fiscal here... :lol: :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks to both Johann & JvR! :thumbs_up:
I find it quite fascinating that there can be quite such a difference in the species dependant on where one sees it.
In fact I don't recall ever seeing the chestnut patch on the flanks before.
WackoRhino's Fiscal was seen in KTP and it was only after Arks queried it that I even thought to look it up. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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I agree about the giss, WR's birdie is definitely a female common fiscal... :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Elsa wrote:
In fact I don't recall ever seeing the chestnut patch on the flanks before.


All female common fiscals has rufous flanks, irrespective of region, Elsa. Just check them out next time you see them CFs... White flanks = male, the "pretty" one = fem. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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I'm battling a bit with this one :wall: , is it perhaps a chat flycatcher? Seen along Darling Hills Road in mid-November 2012.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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I'm battling a bit with this one :wall: , is it perhaps a chat flycatcher?



With that over-bite? Never!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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A young common fiscal perhaps?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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A young common fiscal perhaps?

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Goodness, adrianp, but you make life so-o-o-o easy for the mites...

I wanted arks to open a fieldguide for a change... :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks Johan and Adrian!

@JvR: I DO always look (often extensively) in my field guide before I post here, but sometimes (even often) I can miss the obvious :redface: Juvenile fiscal was my other guess, tho in fact my book (Newman) doesn't have any pix of the juvenile.

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 Post subject: Fiscal, Common
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Hello Guys

Just came back from Tankwa, and got a few unknowns to tick off

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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HiGilbertr14

1 - think its a J common fiscal

Sure the big guns will be able to help more.

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