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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby MattAxel » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:09 pm

Okay lets give this a go. BB your first one I'm afraid I can't get a 100% ID on, but the shape and colouring suggest your wife may be correct with juv Common Starling.

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Re: Identification Help - General Birds

Unread postby Bush Baptist » Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:13 pm

Thanks MattA. :thumbs_up:
Whatever (according to BB): "You are correct but I don't want to admit it".

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby arks » Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:39 pm

Another that I need help with :hmz: I think that it may be a juvenile of some sort? But I have no idea what sort! Seen at Intaka Island (Century City), Cape Town, on 16 November 2012.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby wildtuinman » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:17 am

At first I thought it was a Cape Weaver who got dipped in oil. But more likely to be an immature Common Starling.

There is some indication of a whitish throat.

Weird bird. Do you have more photos of it? The pale'ish eye bugs me a bit.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby arks » Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:57 pm

wildtuinman wrote:At first I thought it was a Cape Weaver who got dipped in oil. But more likely to be an immature Common Starling.

There is some indication of a whitish throat.

Weird bird. Do you have more photos of it? The pale'ish eye bugs me a bit.

Thanks WTM. I'd also thought possibly a juvenile starling, but I was thinking wattled? Unfortunately I only have one other photo of this bird and I'm not sure it's much further help. Definitely a weird bird!

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby wildtuinman » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:44 am

I don't see any presence of a pale rump, which would rule out Wattled Starling.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Dabchick » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:23 pm

Juvenile pale-winged starling possibly? :hmz: (rather looks like the juvenile indicated in the Oberprieler & Cillié photo guide.

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby wildtuinman » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:33 pm

I really don't know the Cape all that well, but I would think that where arks saw the bird may be out of range for Pale-winged Starling.
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Dabchick » Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:53 pm

I didn't take note of the specific location before - just remembered "Cape" :redface:

In any case after googling "common starling juvenile", and seeing lots of birds looking exactly like this one, I'm convinced that it is indeed a common starling :D

[btw, wildtuinman - when is the next Bird ID challenge coming up? :twisted: (your challenges are very, well, challenging, so we need lots and lots of time to find (or not find) the answers :D ]

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby arks » Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:02 pm

Thanks so much, WTM and dabchick, for your help with solving this one :thumbs_up:
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Re: Starling, Common/European

Unread postby wildtuinman » Mon Jul 08, 2013 2:35 pm

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Re: Starling, Common/European

Unread postby TrevorC » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:41 pm

Nice shot WTM :D :D

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Re: Starling, Common/European

Unread postby wildtuinman » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:15 am

Ditto Trev! :thumbs_up:
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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby Albert » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:54 am

This bird was photographed at Ebb and Flow (Wilderness) in November 2014. I saw it in the same area (open grass area next to fynbos) on several occasions. Photographs were generally overexposed, but the following 2 crops were fairly representative.
The yellow base to the bill directed my initial search, and I originally thought maybe Plain-backed Pipit, but the overall colouring and the shortish tail (and the fact that the back does appear a little mottled) made me discount that possibility. The shape and bill size also made me discount the African Pipit.
Then I thought, maybe a lark?
Based on the shape and yellow base to the bill and the buffy eyebrow, I am now leaning to Large-Billed Lark. (The colour appears to be somewhat darker than the photographs and drawings of the L-b L that I found, but that might be due to the photographer....and there does appear to be streaking on the breast)

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Re: Identification Help - LBJs

Unread postby wildtuinman » Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:36 pm

Hi Albert,

It is a young Common Starling.
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