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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I saw this bird this July in Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park.
I thought it was a Jackal buzzard (juvenile) ... but I'm no longer sure of anything. :doh:
Please, what is your feeling with it ?
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I don't know, the GISS just doesn't scream out Buzzard to me. Do you have any other photos of this bird? Maybe the horizontal posture puts me off course here. Furthermore the eye colouration is also interesting. I am trying very hard to make an immature rufous form of Ovambo Sparrowhawk out of this bird.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hello wildtuinman,
Thanks for your interest !
Unfortunately, I don't have other pictures with other positions.
The bird flew away just after. :redface:
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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The first photo, did you crop it?

I would like to see how long exactly the tail is.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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On food preferences I would go the buzzard route, as it is eating something furry. A sparrowhawk would be eating something feathery :hmz:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hello wildtuinman & adrianp
The first photo is not really a crop... just a little bit (less than 10%)
The tail ends behind the small tree branch (white) on the left. (it is not cut)
I don't really know what the bird was eating, but it was furry.
If you want a crop from a part i'll do it.
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Looking carefully at the bird, you can see in places the feathers are going black in the places where you would expect them to go black in adult jackal buzzard. So IMO its a sub adult Jackal Buzzard.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hello wildtuinman & adrianp
Thanks again for your help ! :thumbs_up:
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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sorry for the poor quality, but it was quite far.

This morning on a bird count, about 30 km south of Malmesbury on the N7, about 30 km from Cape Town, I saw this raptor. I looked through my binos, which apparently lied to me. My first glance before taking these pics, told me it was an African Harrier Hawk, which from the pics it is not.

It was very dark grey, darker than a DCG, with yellow gizz and legs. These are the best of 4 pics.

We saw a lot of Jackal & Steppe buzzards in the general area, but surely this is not one?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Why would you rule out Jackal Buzzard, BB?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Bush Baptist wrote:
with yellow gizz and legs.


Sorry I had to laugh at the above! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Would love to know how you found this out. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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General Impression of Size and Shape naturally. :roll:

But it appears I have scored an own goal here.

Possibly I should have said gape, but I meant the front of the face, Oom.

So everyone have a good laugh at my expense. I usually have one at yours. :wink:

Back to the bird. I was pretty sure it was an African Harrier Hawk through the binos.

We stopped a little way further on and I walked back 100 metres or so to take the the pics.

I wonder if I got the wrong raptor on a different tree?

From the pic, it would seem that jackal buzzard is the best call, although we saw quite a few and it didn't look like them, but distant raptors are difficult blighters.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I think Jackal Buzzard is the right call.

As for GIZZ, it has a completely different meaning as does JIZZ. I am very careful in using those spelling variations after I read the real meaning of it on google. :P

I usually just stick to GISS. :thumbs_up:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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wildtuinman wrote:
As for GIZZ, it has a completely different meaning as does JIZZ. I am very careful in using those spelling variations after I read the real meaning of it on google. :P


Me too now. :redface:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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It's a jackal buzzard. Short rufus tail is diagnostic! :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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THanks! Maybe I was looking at the wrong end of the bird. :wink:

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