Skip to content

SANParks.org Forums

View unanswered posts | View active topics






Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 6 of 7
 [ 94 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Lark, Rufous-naped
Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:23 pm 
Offline
Junior Virtual Ranger
Junior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:07 am
Posts: 848
Location: Under African Sky !!!
Image

_________________
"A roaring lion kills no game."
"Until lions start writing down their own stories, the hunters will always be heroes."
"If you kill a tree, you are killing a bird."
“When the sun has set, no candle can replace it.”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Lark, Rufous-naped
Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:23 pm 
Offline
Junior Virtual Ranger
Junior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:07 am
Posts: 848
Location: Under African Sky !!!
Image

_________________
"A roaring lion kills no game."
"Until lions start writing down their own stories, the hunters will always be heroes."
"If you kill a tree, you are killing a bird."
“When the sun has set, no candle can replace it.”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Lark, Rufous-naped
Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:24 pm 
Offline
Junior Virtual Ranger
Junior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Sun Aug 29, 2010 10:07 am
Posts: 848
Location: Under African Sky !!!
Image

_________________
"A roaring lion kills no game."
"Until lions start writing down their own stories, the hunters will always be heroes."
"If you kill a tree, you are killing a bird."
“When the sun has set, no candle can replace it.”


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Lark, Rufous-naped
Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:45 pm 
Offline
Distinguished Virtual Ranger
Distinguished Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:41 pm
Posts: 18065
Location: Johannesburg - where they cut down trees and name streets after them.
Beautifully detailed pic Leeukos. :)

_________________
"Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened." ~ Anatole France


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:13 pm 
Offline
Senior Virtual Ranger
Senior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm
Posts: 3716
Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC)
Some more larks that I'm not 100% sure about ... I think that all three of these are rufous-naped larks? All seen at Mokala in late October 2012.

2
Image

Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 6:13 pm 
Offline
Junior Virtual Ranger
Junior Virtual Ranger

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:37 pm
Posts: 343
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
Number 2 looks good for Rufous-naped.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 7:31 pm 
Offline
Senior Virtual Ranger
Senior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm
Posts: 3716
Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC)
Thanks Matt, but I remain a bit confused :hmz: What precisely are the differences between the Eastern clapper lark and the rufous-naped lark -- because all three of these look pretty much alike to me :wall: -- whereas the drawings of these two larks in my Newmans look somewhat different from each other ... :hmz: I'd thought that what would appear (to me) to be a rufous crest/crown on all three of these birds were what made them all seem (to me) to 'fit' as rufous-naped for me :wall: :hmz:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:26 pm 
Offline
Junior Virtual Ranger
Junior Virtual Ranger

Joined: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:37 pm
Posts: 343
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa
arks, sorry it's taken me so long to respond, I've been quite busy in the past few days. It's quite tough to describe the differences, they become much more obvious once you see them both out in the field. Two features I can point out here are that Rufous-naped has a more scaled appearance on the back, whereas E Clapper is more mottled on the back. Another one is that E Clapper is more uniformly coloured, and is rufous on the back and underneath, whereas Rufous-naped is usually a more two-toned bird that's lighter underneath. Hope that helps a bit.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 11:31 pm 
Offline
Senior Virtual Ranger
Senior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2005 5:53 pm
Posts: 3716
Location: Cambridge, MA (and home from home in Darling, WC)
Thanks Matt, it does help a bit. I do know that there were lots of clapper larks about when I was visiting Mokala, because they were doing that amazing wing-clapping thing, so I heard them more often than I saw them -- or so I thought :hmz: In fact, it rather surprises me that some of my (many) lark photos should turn out to be of clapper larks, since I had the sense that they never stayed still long enough for pix. However, looking through more of my photos, I can clearly see that some of my larks have a more uniformly russet breast, while others have a lighter, buff-toned breast .... Thanks for giving me these criteria to help me with sorting out which are which :thumbs_up:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 11:06 am 
Offline
Junior Virtual Ranger
Junior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:13 pm
Posts: 334
Location: Jo'Burg
Since it's a quiet Sunday, here are three more and then I'll sit down... :D

Fairly sure with one. All taken at Rietvlei last month

Image
Image

_________________
A bird in the hand...belongs in the bush!

Canon 7D / Canon 100-400mm 4.6-5.6 IS EF / Canon 28-85mm 2.8 EF


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:30 pm 
Offline
Legendary Virtual Ranger
Legendary Virtual Ranger
User avatar
Award: Sighting of the Year - Birds (2013)
Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:33 pm
Posts: 2315
Location: I'm the patty in Jam Street
Award: Birder of the Year (2012)
Rufous-naped lark.

_________________
665 Latest lifer: Neergaard's sunbird


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 2:49 pm 
Offline
Junior Virtual Ranger
Junior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:13 pm
Posts: 334
Location: Jo'Burg
Thanks Johan -

No chance the second is Spike Heeled? :? I have plenty of shots of a Rufous naped from the same area and really believed these were two different species...



Image


Image


Image


This bird has far less rufous in the primary/secondary feathers which confused me.

Which features am I missing?

_________________
A bird in the hand...belongs in the bush!

Canon 7D / Canon 100-400mm 4.6-5.6 IS EF / Canon 28-85mm 2.8 EF


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 5:59 pm 
Offline
Legendary Virtual Ranger
Legendary Virtual Ranger
User avatar
Award: Sighting of the Year - Birds (2013)
Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:33 pm
Posts: 2315
Location: I'm the patty in Jam Street
Award: Birder of the Year (2012)
Too little red in the wing panel? Look again at your first pic... That is typical for RNL. They don't always flash their red crests like in your second set of pix.

Why is it not spike-heeled? Tail too long, bill too robust and too short, amongst many other features

Image

Check out the Forum Bird Index when you have an idea of which bird you want confirmation on... There are tonnes of fabulous information there that you just cannot find anywhere else!

_________________
665 Latest lifer: Neergaard's sunbird


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 7:21 pm 
Offline
Junior Virtual Ranger
Junior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:13 pm
Posts: 334
Location: Jo'Burg
Check elsewhere first, eh?

Righto.

_________________
A bird in the hand...belongs in the bush!

Canon 7D / Canon 100-400mm 4.6-5.6 IS EF / Canon 28-85mm 2.8 EF


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - LBJs
Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 6:44 am 
Offline
Legendary Virtual Ranger
Legendary Virtual Ranger
User avatar
Award: Sighting of the Year - Birds (2013)
Joined: Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:33 pm
Posts: 2315
Location: I'm the patty in Jam Street
Award: Birder of the Year (2012)
Huntsman, I'm not "redirecting" you not to use the Help Forum. I'm just bringing to your attention one of the BEST birding resources for SA birds.... ON THE ENTIRE WEB!!! And it is right here on our Forum! :dance:

No matter how much one researches birds, there is always a few remaining IDs that one needs help with. Quite often you get your AHA! moment seconds after reading the reply from a forumite... :lol: That is what the Help Forum is there for, to help birders and grow the love for Birding.

Keep up your quest for more... :thumbs_up:

_________________
665 Latest lifer: Neergaard's sunbird


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 94 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 3, 4, 5, 6, 7  Next



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group

Webcams Highlights

Addo Nossob Orpen Satara
Addo Nossob Orpen Satara
Submitted by swartj at 19:10:55 Submitted by fromfar at 06:12:40 Submitted by grannyb at 07:58:56 Submitted by Scottm at 02:21:18