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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 9:14 pm 
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Good evening

I took tid pic in KTP middel winter last year

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The consensus is that it is a Steppe Buzzard

Has anyone seen one of these in winter in Southern Africa ?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Nope, no steppe buzzards are known to overwinter, but a juvenile Jackal buzzard does :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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:hmz: :hmz: :hmz: Now haven't I seen that picture somewhere else on the birding pages before?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Yip Sky I'd also agree with Juv Jackel buzzard here.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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There are occasional reports of overwintering Steppe Buzzards, although very rarely, and most of the time they do turn out to be juv Jackal Buzzards. This bird is definitely a youngster due to its yellow eye, but it's tough to tell from this photo whether it's a young Jackal or Steppe Buzzard. Both would actually be an unusual sighting, as it is rare to see a Steppe Buzzard in the middle of winter, but it's also very rare to find a Jackal Buzzard in the KTP. The white on the flanks worries me a bit for Jackal Buzzard. Do you have any more shots of this bird Sky?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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I am just throwing juv African Hawk-Eagle in the mix.. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Or perhaps a Pale Chanting Goshawk..

Now discuss. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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DotDan wrote:
Or perhaps a Pale Chanting Goshawk..

Now discuss. :lol:


That did cross my mind, but that wouldn't show a yellow cere, would it? I don't have any books with me at the moment, so will have to check up on this bird properly when I get home.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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DotDan wrote:
Or perhaps a Pale Chanting Goshawk..

Now discuss. :lol:


I'm thinking that Sky would have figured it out as chating goshawk on his own whilst looking at the bird for a while and taking pictures :hmz:

Looking at the SABAP2 distribution data, JB is a more likely option than AHE... for what its worth.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Sky wrote:
Good evening

I took tid pic in KTP middel winter last year

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The consensus is that it is a Steppe Buzzard

Has anyone seen one of these in winter in Southern Africa ?


Hi Sky, I didn't know you took this photo in Winter! As you say it's a different story then...
Here is another view of the bird you send me and the yellow eye as I mentioned before as well as the barring on the secondaries show that this is a juv. JB and not a Steppe Buzzard.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Agree with Jackal Buzzard, clear as day in that second pic :D


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Yip, no barring on the flanks, definite JB. Great sighting for the KTP!


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hello,
I saw this bird this July in Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park.
I thought it was a Jackal buzzard (juvenile) ... but I'm no longer sure of anything. :doh:
Please, what is your feeling with it ?
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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:hmz: I will say also Jackal Buzzard

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thank you Anne-marie ! :D
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