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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Bushbuddies » Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:33 pm

Hi Aat and all the other tusker-fans out there! :yaya:

We recently returned from a trip to Northern KNP - and being Tusker country - we met a few of these giants again. Haven't had time to ID them with the new lists yet, Aat - so I thought I'd post them here for your ID (if you don't mind)...

1. Seen at Babalala, peacefully standing under a tree and sleeping during the midday heat:

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2. This collared guy (with only 1 tusk) - seen in the Shingwedzi riverbed just outside camp:

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3. These two beauties were on the Red Rocks loop - in the riverbed. The one on the Right of the photo is not in the best condition. His hip and shoulder bones were quite prominent...

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4. Another collared tusker in the Shingwedzi riverbed just outside camp:

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5. And while the above guy was in the riverbed - this guy was munching just on the other side of the main road outside Shingwedzi:

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Aat » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:09 pm

Bushbuddies wowwwwwwwwwww :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

ID's
photo 1 = Mavatsani
photo 2 = Mavatsani
photo 3 = Mpenza (lost his other tusk probably october 2011)
photo 4 = front = Riceho and behind him Machachule (looks not very well idd... looks like he used his last set of teeth and not able to eat well anymore ... if that is the case we will not see him that long anymore.. they then normally will stay close to rivers or dams so they can drink )
photo 5 = same as photo 4
photo 6 and 7 = Nkombo (an STE *Save The Elephants* collared tusker)
Photo 8 (last) = Mandzemba

6 named tuskers ... great catch !!
Worried about Machachule ...hope I am wrong :pray: :pray:

That means : 6 beers and a kudu :rtm: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


[quote="Bushbuddies"]Hi Aat and all the other tusker-fans out there! :yaya:

We recently returned from a trip to Northern KNP - and being Tusker country - we met a few of these giants again. Haven't had time to ID them with the new lists yet, Aat - so I thought I'd post them here for your ID (if you don't mind)...

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Bushbuddies » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:36 pm

And such a prompt reply! :clap: Thanks Aat! :k

Unfortunately - that was the idea we also got with Machachule... :( if you look on the first photo of him - you can actually se his ribs... Not good a good sign if you're an ellie! Actually terrible to die of starvation like that... :cry:

Thanks again Aat! We were really blessed seeing all these guys! :thumbs_up:

I'm getting into some serious debt here with you... :tongue:
12 Dec 2015 - Twee Rivieren
13 Dec 2015 - Nossob
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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby 100ponder » Sun Oct 07, 2012 9:38 pm

Wonderful sightings Bushbuddies.

Looks like Mavatsani's tusks are growing rapidly !

Your photo of Riceho reminded me of a elephant we encountered just outside Shingwedzi's gate in early June.
[ I am posting a photo of this tusker below.]

The LH tusk has a splinter off the top of it's tip just like Riceho.
The RH tusk has a splinter off the lower side of it's tip just like Riceho.
The RH tusk tip show a slight grass notch just like Riceho.

Aat, could this have been Riceho ?

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Aat » Mon Oct 08, 2012 1:58 am

[quote="100ponder"]Wonderful sightings Bushbuddies.

Hi my friend,
Yes IDD that is Riceho , no doubt.
I added him since he has very thick tusks , not yet that long but very promising



Looks like Mavatsani's tusks are growing rapidly !

Your photo of Riceho reminded me of a elephant we encountered just outside Shingwedzi's gate in early June.
[ I am posting a photo of this tusker below.]

The LH tusk has a splinter off the top of it's tip just like Riceho.
The RH tusk has a splinter off the lower side of it's tip just like Riceho.
The RH tusk tip show a slight grass notch just like Riceho.

Aat, could this have been Riceho ?

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby 100ponder » Mon Oct 08, 2012 8:47 pm

During our June visit to northern KNP we also saw this very old
"ballie" in his twighlight years.
[ Ballie = old man ]
He was quietly feeding and dozing a hundred meters upstream
from the Shingwedzi main gate.

He will not qualify as a TUSKER based on his current tusk
length but. . . . .


His tusks are currently protruding approx a meter from the lip, plus
another approx 0.75 meter under the lip makes each of his tusks
about 1.75 meter long.

His tusks are also more or less even in thickness from lip to tip
excluding the obvious tip tapering from years of wear. This indicates
that appox a meter [ or more ] of ivory had been lost on each tusk.

Keeping this in mind indicates that this bull had grown 2,75 to 3 meter
long tusks in his life !

Also, most really old bulls have the nerve cavity shortening in their old
age making for heavier weight for meter of length - now this bull have
moderately thick tusks which could have weighed around 120 lb each.

Today, in his old age his tusks will weigh around 90 lb each.
A tapering un-damaged tusk of the same length from a younger bull,
[ protruding a meter from under the lip ] will weigh approx 70lb.

So, I bow to this old bull having lived out most of a full span of years,
may your last days be kind to you as your children walks the bush
around you. . . .

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Janeli » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:50 am

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I have seen this beautiful tusker about 4km from Letaba on the H9.
I would love to know if he is a known tusker.

These two tuskers were grazing in the riverbed at Letaba. Wonderful to watch them grazing so peacefully.

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Aat » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:48 am

Janeli,
You have seen Masthulele , one of the biggest tuskers at the moment in Kruger
the other ones are no tuskers...nice bulls...


[quote="Janeli"]


I have seen this beautiful tusker about 4km from Letaba on the H9.
I would love to know if he is a known tusker.

These two tuskers were grazing in the riverbed at Letaba. Wonderful to watch them grazing so peacefully.

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Aat » Wed Oct 10, 2012 3:51 am

Bushbuddies,
If you find some spare minutes please send the pics to me...should be nice for some updates... :)


Bushbuddies wrote:And such a prompt reply! :clap: Thanks Aat! :k

Unfortunately - that was the idea we also got with Machachule... :( if you look on the first photo of him - you can actually se his ribs... Not good a good sign if you're an ellie! Actually terrible to die of starvation like that... :cry:

Thanks again Aat! We were really blessed seeing all these guys! :thumbs_up:

I'm getting into some serious debt here with you... :tongue:

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Janeli » Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:59 pm

Thank you very much, Aat!!! I am so glad that we at least have seen one big tusker!!! :D :D

I would like to show you 2 other ellies we saw ... just in case we have missed something!

This one near the Nwanetsi Dam on 23 May 2012
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This one on 15 May 2012 on the Mlondozi Road
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And this one near the N'wagovilla Hill on 17 May 2012
(I think it may be the same ellie???)
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Thanks again!!!!! :thumbs_up:
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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Aat » Thu Oct 11, 2012 12:35 am

Janeli... will be back on these pictures later... spent time with something else about the tuskers...

@ All

Like to do what I promised.... at the forum thread for Duke but related to Tuskers

So... Just launched the new section at my Tusker website with LEGENDARY TUSKERS of KRUGER NP

included 5 tuskers where I think they belong in this section... more to add and advise / requests are welcome

One of them is DUKE and since it is just a year ago he died I modified his pages to have a photographic story of his life including new pictures
Oldest picture back to 1991 and latest from 2011 a few months before he died...


Hope you like the new section and Duke's story

links:
Duke
http://www.tuskersofafrica.com/tuskers/duke_001.htm

new section Legendary tuskers
http://www.tuskersofafrica.com/tskmain/tsklgnd.htm

it became nightwork ...but worth to do it... :tongue:

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby 100ponder » Thu Oct 11, 2012 8:40 pm

Hi Aat,

I like the idea of "The legendary Tuskers" ! !

Two questions :-

1] Could any currently live tuskers qualify ?

2] Could tuskers from "other" parks also qualify ?
i.e. iSilu ?

Keep up the great work !

Gerrie.

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Re: Big Tuskers

Unread postby Aat » Thu Oct 11, 2012 10:17 pm

100ponder,
Good questions ...
I called it Legendary Tuskers of KNP so it is just for the tuskers from Kruger. Otherwis I should mention it Legendary Tuskers of South-Africa (something to think about)
The other question... I will only include tuskers who passed away and deserve a special place because of their tusks (lenght / weight) or popularity.

All the current tuskers will be in the section Tuskers of Today.
A change I will make is to include the STE tuskers in this section like Nkombo... so it will be easier to ID in one section and they are tuskers of Kruger. I will add info that they are collared by STE.

I think the Tembe tuskers deserve their own section bacause they are a special "group" of tuskers with another background.

100ponder wrote:Hi Aat,

I like the idea of "The legendary Tuskers" ! !

Two questions :-

1] Could any currently live tuskers qualify ?

2] Could tuskers from "other" parks also qualify ?
i.e. iSilu ?

Keep up the great work !

Gerrie.

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Re: Large Tuskers Photo thread

Unread postby BerkiSA » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:30 pm

Hi Latest photo data:

-Taken on dirt road near Letaba
-27 March 2012
-Massive Bull
-Aged, maybe 50 years
-Massive right tusk and shorter, broken left
-Bull must be +- 320cm at shoulder and right tusk almost touches ground

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Re: Large Tuskers Photo thread

Unread postby BerkiSA » Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:34 pm

Hi,

I believe this was the same bull just seen earlier:

-Taken on H1-6 between Mopani and Letaba near Twisappel waterhole
-10 december 2012
-Massive Bull
-Aged, maybe 50 years
-Massive right tusk and shorter, broken left
-Bull must be +- 320cm at shoulder and right tusk almost touches ground


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