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 Post subject: Re: OFF ROAD RUMOURS
Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 3:22 pm 
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The roads that ARE visible are all marked "low maintenance" roads.
You are allowed to drive on them.
If you are not sure or there is no sign visible don't drive on them. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: OFF ROAD RUMOURS
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Yep. Usually there is also a sign saying that they are only fit to drive with a 2 x 4 or a 4 x 4.
I have done the Mankavi with a sedan, but it can get difficult at times. You have to get really inventive and would not do it during the rainy season. :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: OFF ROAD RUMOURS
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ndloti wrote:
There are no 4x4 single day trails around Lower Sabie .

The only low maintenance roads in KNP are those close to Phalaborwa .
The type of terrain in the area is probably more suitable - it appears they require less maintenance - have a look on google earth .

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 Post subject: Re: OFF ROAD RUMOURS
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Have had the pleasure of driving a few of these roads Nov & Dec 2009 and May 2010.

They are marked at each end of the road, indicating that only "High clearance" vehicles should use these roads.

They are not indicated on the map which means you don't know where they lead to until you get to the end!! (suppose thats half the fun)

I unfortunately don't recall the road names but there is one just near the turn off to Sable Dam, and another just near Masorini.

I must say it was a fantasic experience as invairably you are the only one on the road and you really get the feeling of being in the bush (even better than on the gravel roads)

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 Post subject: Re: OFF ROAD RUMOURS
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louis dreyer wrote:
My only problem with these roads’ as indicated they are not on the maps so you don’t know where you going or how long it will take you to get there.


Phalaborwa gate supplies a map (with distances ? - I have one at home) - if without distances it is easy to gauge approx travelling times - as far as I remember the longest stretch is from the H14 north westwards to a point on the Letaba slightly east of Shimuwini river - about 18 km each way .

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 Post subject: Re: OFF ROAD RUMOURS
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I have traveled quite a way down one of these roads and it was pretty much a two spoor road to the middle of no-where. We helped a bunch of rangers that had got stuck in mud, and in stead of them hiking back 40km in 35C temperatures, they allowed us to use the Landy to get them pulled out.

I was a very nice experience, driving down the road, as well as being able to assist these dedicated people.

But i can honestly say that there was no more to see on this road, than any other road I have been on. It all still boils down to being at the right place at the right time, regardless of the road.


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 Post subject: Re: Low maintance roads
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Just wanted to get this discussion going again - am personally very interested in getting off the beaten track and see some place new.

Have a few questions though: Are these roads only around phalaborwa or have there been others created elsewhere? Also is there any map by now with the locations of these roads?


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 Post subject: Re: Low maintance roads
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Bigbob, as far as I know the ones around Phalaborwa are still the only ones available.
One just has to watch out for the marker boards at the entrance to each one, they are clearly marked. :thumbs_up:

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One can get a map of these roads at the Phalaborwa Gate. The roads are called Category D roads. According to the map, the total distance is 54km.

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 Post subject: Re: Low maintance roads
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We almost always go in and out at Phalaborwa gate...

So how come we have missed these roads? :wall: :wall: :wall: (I always notice the ones with the no entry signs, though :slap: )

How far are they away from the gate, more-or-less?


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 Post subject: Re: Low maintance roads
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Dabchick, there are 7 of these roads close to Phalagat,

Look out for the no entry signs with pictures of a 4x4 on the board. Some real good scenery, animals, etc. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Low maintance roads
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Here some pics to help with location/road surface:

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We found the two routes we did about 15km in from the Phalaborwa gate, one on the south side of the road and one on the north. The one on the south side leads off the S51 (Masorini Loop). The one on the north side of the road leads up to the S131 and one needs to drive along the S131 a bit to turn back onto the low maintenance road leading back to the H9.

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 Post subject: Re: Low maintance roads
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Dabchick, Sightings on these roads for me, and I have done them over and over again include:

Cheetah 4,5hrs alone :dance:
Lions, with and without kill, many hours Alone. :big_eyes:
Black Rhino
Wild dog Den, twice, one is current. :twisted:
AWC
Mamba
Python
Pangolin
Leopard
Buff
Ellie
General game
Lotsa Birds, some really rare.

So worth every KM. :thumbs_up:


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 Post subject: Re: Low maintance roads
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OK,

Thanks guys - seems to be a good detour for one of my next kruger tours
@granny a suzuki jimmy should definetely manage, probably better than most bakkies for offroading!


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 Post subject: Re: Low maintance roads
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granny wrote:
Would I be able to do these roads in my Suzuki Jimney?


I have read an article in one of the latest off road magazines and they nothing but praise for the Jimney. Its relatively light weight and low range count in its favour.

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 Post subject: Re: Low maintance roads
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Granny, you can go on a 2x4 on those roads from what I understand, and looking at what you have, that is 4x4 and has high clearance. From the sign, it seems to me high clearance is most important. You can also see from the pics, they are not badly rutted roads. So go and have an adventure. Just do not do it after rain to be on the safe side. You have a good chance of it still being dry in October.

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