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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
Unread postPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:13 pm 
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A couple Eagles from June 2011. Fighting over food in the fields near the Tihongonyeni waterhole (Mopani area).

First one I think is Tawny Eagle, but quite a few look very similar. What should one look for positive ID ?

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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For the second one (the victim of the food robbery) I have little idea. Guess an Juvenile Eagle of some sort. Also Tawny???

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Again many thanks in advance for any help, Michael

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Hi Michael

I would first like to say that both are Tawny Eagles and I think you are correct in saying the latter is a juvenile.

Brown Eagles can sometimes be very difficult to ID as you get numerous ones that can be in the same habitat.

One thing I have learnt over the years, is that by way of elimination, one can get to a possitive ID much easier than paging through the hordes of Brown Raptors in your field guide.

What I would do here is the following. You look at what eagles can be confused with a Tawny and you will see Lesser Spotted Eagle, Steppe Eagle, Wahlberg's Eagle. The quickest way to eliminate all three, are by looking at which birds are migrants. All three are summer migrants, and in June, the only real brown Eagle to occupy Kruger will be a Tawny.

This is not to say this is the best way to ID, but it makes it easier.. Same can be done with Habitat, range etc.


There are a multitude of ID feautures but I thought I would share the above tip as it really helped me a lot.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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This was taken from very far away in poor light, so may be impossible to ID and I really don't have any idea what it might be. Seen late afternoon along Darling Hills Road on 17 May 2012.

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Sorry to chime in quickly but it seems as if this one might have slipped by. Osprey has much narrower and longer looking wings. This is an immature African Fish-Eagle. They're notorious for pretending to be Ospreys :wink:

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Agree fully with Deefstes. The head as well, points to African Fish-Eagle.

Thanks deefstes and WTM. It actually makes much more sense for it to be an immature juvenile fish eagle :thumbs_up:

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arks wrote:
deefstes wrote:
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This was taken from very far away in poor light, so may be impossible to ID and I really don't have any idea what it might be. Seen late afternoon along Darling Hills Road on 17 May 2012.

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Sorry to chime in quickly but it seems as if this one might have slipped by. Osprey has much narrower and longer looking wings. This is an immature African Fish-Eagle. They're notorious for pretending to be Ospreys :wink:

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Agree fully with Deefstes. The head as well, points to African Fish-Eagle.

Thanks deefstes and WTM. It actually makes much more sense for it to be an immature juvenile fish eagle :thumbs_up:

Yeah I don't think it's an immature juvenile Fish-Eagle. It's either an immature Fish-Eagle or a juvenile Fish-Eagle :P My money is on immature.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks deefstes and WTM. It actually makes much more sense for it to be an immature juvenile fish eagle :thumbs_up:
Yeah I don't think it's an immature juvenile Fish-Eagle. It's either an immature Fish-Eagle or a juvenile Fish-Eagle :P My money is on immature.

:redface: :redface: typo :redface: :redface: — I meant 'immature' :wink: :redface:

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There are a multitude of ID feautures but I thought I would share the above tip as it really helped me a lot.

Thanks DD for confirmation. And will surely keep the tip in mind, although I guess need to see more birds out there to be confident in ID-ing.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Last one for today. Both photographed in Ithala NP, KZN, August 2011.

First one probably to far (bad quality) for positive ID, but I can't even seem to settle on a family?
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The heavily barred underparts, big robust frame and head and the place where you saw it.. Crowned Eagle. Great sighting that!! :thumbs_up:

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Thanks again DD and Johan :D

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Hi, I saw this bird near Shingwedzi. Is it possible to identify this bird?
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Hi, I saw this bird near Shingwedzi. Is it possible to identify this bird?
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I'll give you a hint; It's not an Osprey... :wink:

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Help :lol:
Thought this is a Juvenile Dark Chanting Goshawk. Based purely on its size.
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Noel, can you please tell us where and when you saw this bird?

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