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Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 8:40 pm 
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Dear Anne-Marie,

We will have to face the coldness, thanks for the nice ideas!

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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in replay to your Q. in "Trip report - Kgalagadi Transfrontier Park, June 2012"
about the Barn Owl... :wink:

will search and wait the time needed :rtm:

Veertiende = 14th
Dertiende = 13th (a little bit like in German... for me :wink: )
it's the right reply to your question :lol: :lol: :lol:
sorry I speak French and sometime I mix a little bit questions :redface: :lol:

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Dear Anne-Marie,
Thanks. The problem was not of maps, but of language.

Anyway, exploring google maps, I see that we can get detailed images of Kgalagadi. This will be great for planning.

I was beginning to do so by taking a look at the entrance in Twee Rivieren/Two Rivers. Here is the image:
http://www.4shared.com/office/wxWOnDl5/ ... rance.html

As far as I can get from the image in the link the chalets and cottages are to the left, while the camping is too the right. Is this correct?

By the image it also seems that we turn right coming from R360 and then find the entrance gate coming back to R360 to reach the chalets and cottages (if they are where I am guessing they are).

Am I right in guessing all that?

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1 June 2013 - Twee Rivieren
2 June 2013 - Kieliekrankie
3-4 June 2013 - Kalahari Tented Camp
5 June 2013 - Twee Rivieren
6-8 June 2013 - Nossob
9 June 2013 - Gharagab
10 June 2013 - Grootkolk
11 June 2013 - Nossb
12 June 2013 - Twee Rivieren


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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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:lol: on parle la même langue :lol:

the photo is too small, I can't see, and I don't want to subscrite...
quand on arrive à Twee Rivieren, il y a un grand building pour l'entrée (+ la douane pour le Botswana)
when we arrive at TR, there is big building and the custom for Botswana
ensuite le camping à gauche et tout en haut de la pente, le restaurant et le magasin sont à gauche, les bungalows à
droite then camping, then to the left side the unic restaurant of the park and the shop, then to the right side bungalows
il y a aussi quelques bungalows à gauche
the is also some bungalows to the left side
on peut demander pour voir le Guru, dans le grand bâtiment à côté de l'épicerie
we can ask for the Guru in the big building (old reception) near the shop
je ne me souviens plus des nos des routes, mais c'est vraiment très facile, c'est tout droit et on tourne une fois à droite, attention je trouve la route dangereuse, ils posent maintenant des glissières. Il y a de gros signaux.
I can't remember the nr of the roads, but very easy, straight on and one turn to the right. Very easy, big signals

Je ne sais pas si j'ai bien répondu :lol: :lol: :lol:
I don't know if I reply correctly :lol: :lol:

see you soon... in the park :dance:

PS if you have an E-mail adresse...pm me (the button is at the bottom of this message), I will send you the old map they give to us... many moons ago... this one I like :D

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 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi Information Page
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Dear Anne-Marie
So, you'll be there at the same period we will be. What is your itinerary?

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have a look here :wink:

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Dear Anne-Marie
Still not listed June 2013, when I'll be at KTP....

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Hi Charbel
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About Gharagab, let me ask you. We are not experience 4 x 4 trail drivers. Did we make a mistake in reserving Gharagab (because we can simply get stuck in the way there) and would better change our reservations?

Gharagab is a so peaceful and so beautiful place. Be sure you've made a very good choice ! :clap:
I have been there this July. The track to drive there is not so difficult. As Hippotragus I did not used low ratio and I am a 4x4 beginner too.
Just : drive slowly slowly (to see landscape and to drive safetly) , with deflated tyres (1,3 for me). When you don't have speed enough : reverse and try again.
Just be careful (don't speed) when you go the dunes down : some quite tight corners.
May be some more experienced driver will have some better advice for you
The landscapes .... GREAT !
I hope you'll have a great time there in red sand dunes it is a so nice place !
... and hope this helps and despite my bad english language (sorry, i am french :mrgreen: )
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Charbel,

Did you explore the 360 Cities photo under photos on Google earth. Its a red square allowing you to zoom into the camp and get a 360 degree view. There are a few other 360 cam view taken acros KTP, e.g. Melkvlei picnic site and Nossob camp. you will get a good idea of the camp set-up through these views.

Also check out facebook for video clips by Jan Kriel and photos of other members.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/8276617707/

If you are worried about the 4x4 section you can always arrange with Grootkolk camp attendant to radio to Gharagab at your expected arrival time. Even Nossob will make contact with Gharagab to make sure that you have arrive safely. I did the trip to Grootkolk on my own and Nossob phoned through to make sure I've arrived safely. You will find lots of help when you in the park and the personnel will make sure you are safe at the end of the day. If not a search party will be send out, but I am sure the road will not be that difficult and you will make it easy.

We have done the Nossob 4x4 route where you will find a few tricky dunes. But by reversing and try again a bit faster one usually makes the dune. I have only experience of driving to Bitterpan, which had one difficult dune, but most not to difficult.

Somewhere on the forum you will find videos of these two road and maybe some-one did post something on Gharagab.

Biiterpan link

viewtopic.php?style=2&f=38&t=32167&p=1514002&hilit=Bitterpan#p1514002

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yvo wrote:
Hi Charbel
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About Gharagab, let me ask you. We are not experience 4 x 4 trail drivers. Did we make a mistake in reserving Gharagab (because we can simply get stuck in the way there) and would better change our reservations?

Gharagab is a so peaceful and so beautiful place. Be sure you've made a very good choice ! :clap:
I have been there this July. The track to drive there is not so difficult. As Hippotragus I did not used low ratio and I am a 4x4 beginner too.
Just : drive slowly slowly (to see landscape and to drive safetly) , with deflated tyres (1,3 for me). When you don't have speed enough : reverse and try again.
Just be careful (don't speed) when you go the dunes down : some quite tight corners.
May be some more experienced driver will have some better advice for you
The landscapes .... GREAT !
I hope you'll have a great time there in red sand dunes it is a so nice place !
... and hope this helps and despite my bad english language (sorry, i am french :mrgreen: )
yvo


Dear Yvo,
Thanks. It was very useful. Already glad to have chosen Gharagab!

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Unread postPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 9:07 pm 
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Son godin wrote:
Charbel,

Did you explore the 360 Cities photo under photos on Google earth. Its a red square allowing you to zoom into the camp and get a 360 degree view. There are a few other 360 cam view taken acros KTP, e.g. Melkvlei picnic site and Nossob camp. you will get a good idea of the camp set-up through these views.

Also check out facebook for video clips by Jan Kriel and photos of other members.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/8276617707/

If you are worried about the 4x4 section you can always arrange with Grootkolk camp attendant to radio to Gharagab at your expected arrival time. Even Nossob will make contact with Gharagab to make sure that you have arrive safely. I did the trip to Grootkolk on my own and Nossob phoned through to make sure I've arrived safely. You will find lots of help when you in the park and the personnel will make sure you are safe at the end of the day. If not a search party will be send out, but I am sure the road will not be that difficult and you will make it easy.

We have done the Nossob 4x4 route where you will find a few tricky dunes. But by reversing and try again a bit faster one usually makes the dune. I have only experience of driving to Bitterpan, which had one difficult dune, but most not to difficult.

Somewhere on the forum you will find videos of these two road and maybe some-one did post something on Gharagab.

Biiterpan link

viewtopic.php?style=2&f=38&t=32167&p=1514002&hilit=Bitterpan#p1514002


Dear Son Godin,
Thanks for all the tips.
Just found a wonderful page with GPS information and maps for KTP:
http://www.wildlifephotography.nl/maps/ktp

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Charbel


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charbel wrote:
Just found a wonderful page with GPS information and maps for KTP:
http://www.wildlifephotography.nl/maps/ktp
Just FYI that website belongs to one of our forumites, madach (Arnoud Quanjer) :thumbs_up: and yes, it's superb! And don't worry, charbel, KTP is very easy to negotiate, you'll be fine.

Have a great trip!

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Nice to know it is from one of the forumites. It's really great!

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Dear friends,
Here I am again with questions for planning the trip to Kgalagadi.

In the Go! site, I've read an article on game sighting around Twee Rivieren: http://www.gomag.co.za/destinations/story/171

They say:
"Try to spot the meerkat colony in the riverbed to the right, about 100 m before the turn-off to the first lookout point just north of Houmoed."

But examining google maps, the description confuses me. I see no lookout point north of Houmoed but rather the entry a turn to the right in the main road that leads to a bifurcation, to the left leading to the lookout point to the waterhole: http://www.wildlifephotography.nl/maps/ktp

Could someone tell me, first, if this meerkat colony is still seen around there, and, second, specify a bit more the location?

All the best
Charbel


1 June 2013 - Twee Rivieren
2 June 2013 - Kieliekrankie
3-4 June 2013 - Kalahari Tented Camp
5 June 2013 - Twee Rivieren
6-8 June 2013 - Nossob
9 June 2013 - Gharagab
10 June 2013 - Grootkolk
11 June 2013 - Nossob
12 June 2013 - Twee Rivieren


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Hi there charbel,

To answer your question regarding the Meerkat colony, it must be remembered that Meerkat’s do not stay in the same area for very long neither will they utilize the den site for long periods of time. The reason being that these dens become flea invested etc and the Meerkat’s would leave the den site to one of their other sites within their territory. It would be very difficult to say how long they will stay in one place and if they will still be there.

Currently there is a colony about 300m outside Twee Rivieren camp in the riverbed.

Hope the above would help.

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