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 Post subject: Crocodiles in rivers that flow through Kruger
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I have often wondered what stops crocs that live in Kruger rivers from getting out of the park by swimming upstream. After all there is no underwater sign telling them that they are leaving Kruger.

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 Post subject: Re: Crocodiles in rivers that flow through Kruger
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They surely do swim in the rivers past Kruger boundaries :hmz:

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They do most certainly "get out" (or maybe they were never "in" to start off with). I have a timeshare unit at Hazyview, and there are couple of crocs that live in the river right in front of our unit. Makes for an intersting late afternoon stroll on the river banks... :o

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 Post subject: Re: Crocodiles in rivers that flow through Kruger
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suppose they can be found in many rivers near Kruger
As long as food is around and not to much disturbance

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 Post subject: Re: Crocodiles in rivers that flow through Kruger
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Grantmissy wrote:
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After all there is no underwater sign telling them that they are leaving Kruger.
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I do not know for sure Bush Baptist but I think they are present in the rivers in the surrounding towns (to Kruger) in the Lowveld. I recall a tragedy which took place a few years back, I think at Phalaborwa, town, on New Years or Christmas day involving a crocodile.


You are quite right Grantmissy, it was 1 January 2010 in the Phalaborwa area. We know the husband of the deceased.


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 Post subject: Re: Crocodiles in rivers that flow through Kruger
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There are plenty of Crocs outside the western part of the park. Swim there at your own peril!
Take the Limpopo for example...you find the crocs a few hundred km west of the park.
And its not just a croc thing.
I rmember in 2005 when a guy was killed by a lion outside the Phalaborwa Spar at night. Also someone was driving on the tar road to Letaba and saw a lion dragging a man across the road.

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They can be found in most low lying sections of major rivers, and were spotted in the Duzi river just before the race started. They have an amazing way of adapting to any condition and that is why they have survived the big dinosaur extinction. Jackals and vervet monkeys are in the same league when it come to surviving in populated areas.

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Thanks all.

I was just wondering how far one has to go from a national/Natal park to be able to swim in a river in the country to be able to do it without worrying about being eaten.

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 Post subject: Re: Crocodiles in rivers that flow through Kruger
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BB, when I was a small child, we used to visit my grandparents in Schoemanskloof. We were not allowed to go near the river alone, as there were a lot of crocs. That is 100km? up river... :hmz:


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There is a small resort just outside of Brits called Drie Berge. We go there quite often over weekends and they have a few crocs in the river, with ampel warnings signs around.


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BB, interesting question.

I am close to Lanseria and every so often there are rumours of crocs. We have a couple of hippos, for sure. The animal kind, that is. :hmz:

I once saw a water monitor, the biggest I have ever seen in my life about 10 metres from the Jukskei. A moniter that size could fuel rumours of crocs.

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Bush Baptist wrote:
I wonder for instance, if there are any crocs in remote parts of the Orange river?


Nope, too cold for them. They like sub-tropical to tropical areas. After the floods of 1988, we discovered the skull of a hippo on the banks of the Vaal river, which flows into the Orange. I have read several books about presence of hippos in the Vaal system, but the blerrie Boere and Souties killed them all when they trekked into the interior.


Talking about the Boere and Voortrekkers. They were stupid to go with a wagon and oxen into the interior, and thereby suffered severe deprivation. If they had waited for a hundred years, they could have taken a train. :whistle:

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Crocs are found in all rivers west of Kruger, and sometimes as far as Tzaneen they were found. Klaserie Dam is a good example, as I found crocs there a fortnight ago, and the dumb people swim and ski there. :wall: :wall: :wall:

What peeps don't realise is that nature reserves, farms etc abounds in the area west of Kruger. On our way to Hoedspruit from Orpen gat, on the main road 6km's from Hoedspruit we had a great Lion Hunt, next to the road 2 weeks ago. They were fenced in from the road, but it was still good. :thumbs_up:

I had Lions, hyena, BBJ and various other wild animals at my house when still staying in Phalagat. :whistle:

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 Post subject: Re: Crocodiles in rivers that flow through Kruger
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There are quite a few crocs in Rust de Winter dam which is about an hour north of Pretoria in the Elands River.
I have personally caught one with a fishing rod a few years ago. They have been in that dam for ages. . .Way before all the game farms etc. sprung up all over the place.
My brother have also had a close encounter of the scaly kind when we were still kids.
As they say. . . any pool bigger than a bathtub in the Lowveld should be considered to house a resident croc.

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