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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 12:26 pm 
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Falconry4ever wrote:
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Hello!
What kind of stork/heron is this? Could it be a marabou stork?
I saw it next to water a bit north of Mopani camp in Kruger.

It's a juv. SADDLE-BILLED STORK. Look at the red knees and feet! I've seen similar birds in northern KZN. One can even see the dark saddle visible as the same colour as the bill (unlike in adults).


Thank you, that sounds convincing


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 11:21 am 
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Hi

I wanted help in identifying the storks - looks like juvenile black storks, but since I have not seen them before, would like someone more knowledgeable to confirm. There were 3 of them and this was in KNP on 22nd Oct about 1 km onto the S41 from S90 traveling from Olifants to Satara

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:12 pm 
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Looks good for Juv Black Stork Sandeep. The habitat also seems good as I know there are semi dry riverbeds on the S41 which the Black Stork's use to breed in.

A very good sighting, they aren't that common, especially in South Africa. :D


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Thanks DotDan. Yes I realise they aren't common. In my not so infrequent visits to South Africa and in particular KNP, this is the first time that I have seen them - of course assuming that they are juv black storks :).


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Well basically to put your mind at ease.. Woolly Necked Storks would have a white neck, even the Juv's have white neck's, Abdims Stork - not really a KNP stork but they would have shorter beaks

The greyish face, legs and neck is spot on for Juv Black Stork :D


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Will be more than happy to take your word for it :) and will tick this one on my list then :). Abdims Storks are distinctly smaller in size as well so had ruled that out.


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Sorry guys but to me these look more like juv Saddle-billed Storks. Juv Black Stork would have a more olive-yellow coloured bill and legs, and the bills would also be smaller, and if you look closely at these bird's bills you can see how they go grey, then black, then grey again, which is distinct in juv Saddle-billed.


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Agree with J Saddle-billed Stork the J of the Black Stork doesn't have a Black bill but yellowish green


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I agree with Matt and Ladybirder here..

I confess I didn't spend too much time looking at the pics, but I also know that Black Storks do occur in that area..

Sorry about that Sandeep :redface: Should have had a better look at the pics.. but I agree they are Juv Saddle Billed Storks

Thanks for correcting me guys, we all can make a mistake :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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MattAxel, Ladybirder and DotDan thanks and this was the confusion in my mind. I don't think I could make out the colour difference in the bills, but the birds are big and so is the bill. Anyway, I am certainly not the expert here andmore than willing to be educated :). Thanks again


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
Unread postPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:59 pm 
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Some help from the gurus please. My son photographed this Saddle-billed Stork picture in summer near Shingwedzi - now the yellow eye says female but the two wattles say male according to roberts. No picture I could find showed a bird with yellow-eyes and wattles. There was no mention of breeding colours. Unfortunately the angle means no chest patch can be seen.

Please help a confused man. Many thanks
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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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It is not Cross dressing. Both Male and female have wattles. It's a female!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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It is quite confusing . Four of my fieldguids say no wattles on the female . ( Sasol Birds of Southern Africa , Newmans fieldguide, Photo fieldguid of Sasol and the Photo fieldguid of Ulrich Oberprieler )Robert's doesn't say if the females doesn't have wattles which indicate that she does. But in all the photos in the two photo fieldguides show no wattles on the female. The only conclusion is that the Female doesn't always have wattles, but sometimes do.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - General Birds
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Maybe it is an optional fashion accessory? I just turned up the picture of the last one I saw (Kenya) it is a male but it does not have Wattles either. Not something I have looked at closely before.
Books. My ancient Newmans is silent on the subject. Sinclair/Ryan's "Birds of Africa South of Sahara" says wattle absent in female, and my bible, "Birds of East Africa" Stevenson and Fanshawe clearly shows wattles on both genders. Ah well. Next they will be saying the eye ring is not specific either and we will need a DNA test..

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 Post subject: Re: Stork, Saddle-billed
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