Skip to content

SANParks.org Forums

View unanswered posts | View active topics






Post new topic Reply to topic  Page 36 of 41
 [ 605 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 ... 41  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:39 pm
Posts: 20
Location: Cork, Ireland
Hi all,
I've read a couple of times that the wilderness camps and their access roads are only for those with accommodation booked there. How about roads like the loop across the Auob on the way to Urikaruus. Can I drive this? Can I drive up to the camp for a look at the waterhole?
Also there is another trail I can see starting at 26 22 06 S, 20 41 50 E. It ends at Auchterlony. Can I drive this or is this the trail that was mentioned in other older threads where you register first at TR if you want to do it.
Can anyone suggest any loops to do from Nossob and Mata mata or do people normally just follow the two river beds. Sometimes it's nice just to get away from traffic. Also we are spending 3 days in Nossob and 3 or 4 in Mata mata so we don't want to drive the same circuit every day.

Thanks for any tips.
R.

_________________
27/05/12: TR
28-29th: Mata Mata.
30th: KTC (Full moon, fingers crossed for a clear night)
31st: Mata Mata.
1st to 3rd of June; Nossob.
4th: TR.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 3:49 pm 
Offline
Legendary Virtual Ranger
Legendary Virtual Ranger
User avatar
Award: Forumite of the Year & Travel Tale of the Year, Other Parks (2013)
Joined: Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:36 pm
Posts: 8304
Location: Lausanne (Switzerland)
traffic :shock: which traffic ?
non you can't entry on the way to Urikaruus "guest only", but no problem less than 1 km, except for KK... 2-3 km and the waterhole is behind the cabins/chalets/tents
the trail, I believe you have to reserve first
the roads along the river beds are never the same... minute after minute, or almost :dance:
and there is only 4 roads... 2 from South to North and 2 from West to Est, or vice versa :lol: but what a roads ... :dance: not a circuit :whistle:

have a nice travel and sightings :D

_________________
It is only with the heart that one can see rightly, what is essential is invisible to the eye
Le Petit Prince


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:39 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:39 pm
Posts: 20
Location: Cork, Ireland
Thanks Anne-marie,
We've had the experience in the past with inconsiderate drivers spooking cats by getting too close and starting the engine and moving the car everytime an animal moves. That might be okay with a pride of lazy lions in the mid day heat. But when you've come across a solitary leopard and the cat is accepting of you being there, when suddenly a car comes acround the corner with loud excited visitors telling the driver to move every 30 seconds..... :evil:
Sometimes it's nice to find a loop where no one else is driving and just relax and watch a pair of Lilac breasted Rollers go about their business defending their tree hole.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not some cranky guy. It's nice to see others at sightings too and a great way to meet people when you drive into a camp and recognise a Landy you shared a sighting with earlier that day. Picking each others brains over a cold beer in the evening is a very nice pastime. I'm only enquiring about loops as it's our first trip to the park and I want to make sure I don't miss anything. :D

_________________
27/05/12: TR
28-29th: Mata Mata.
30th: KTC (Full moon, fingers crossed for a clear night)
31st: Mata Mata.
1st to 3rd of June; Nossob.
4th: TR.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:40 pm 
Offline
Senior Virtual Ranger
Senior Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:16 pm
Posts: 1861
Location: Fairest Cape
Quote:
I've read a couple of times that the wilderness camps and their access roads are only for those with accommodation booked there. How about roads like the loop across the Auob on the way to Urikaruus. Can I drive this? Can I drive up to the camp for a look at the waterhole?


Absolutely NOT :rtm: Unless you want a hefty fine. The wilderness camps are posted "residents only", so if you're not staying there, you are trespassing ...
Sorry to jump on you :redface: but this is one of my bugbears -- there is nothing worse than paying a premium to stay in a wilderness camp only to find you are actually at Picadilly Circus with all the traffic :evil:

There are lookout points along the Auob -- one in fact is just north of Urikaruus.

Quote:
Also there is another trail I can see starting at 26 22 06 S, 20 41 50 E. It ends at Auchterlony. Can I drive this or is this the trail that was mentioned in other older threads where you register first at TR if you want to do it.


This sounds like the Leeudril 4X4 trail -- which you book first at twee Rivieren.

Quote:
Can anyone suggest any loops to do from Nossob and Mata mata or do people normally just follow the two river beds. Sometimes it's nice just to get away from traffic. Also we are spending 3 days in Nossob and 3 or 4 in Mata mata so we don't want to drive the same circuit every day.


From Nossob you have 2 choices -- north or south :lol: If you choose south, you can then choose whether or not to do Marie's Loop :lol: Folk usually just drive off to a water-hole like Marie's or Kwang or, or and park off to see what appears.

From MataMata you only have one choice -- south :lol: You do then have a choice at each waterhole as to whether you want to do the loop past the waterhole or not.

Otherwise that's pretty much it. But don't think you'll see the same things on the way back as you saw on the way there -- animals move around :lol:

Enjoy !


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:46 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:39 pm
Posts: 20
Location: Cork, Ireland
Cool!

That's no problem. As I said being first timers we just want to make sure we get the most out of it (without stepping on anyones toes :) )

_________________
27/05/12: TR
28-29th: Mata Mata.
30th: KTC (Full moon, fingers crossed for a clear night)
31st: Mata Mata.
1st to 3rd of June; Nossob.
4th: TR.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kgalagadi roads
Unread postPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:01 pm 
Offline
Legendary Virtual Ranger
Legendary Virtual Ranger
User avatar
Award: Funniest/Best Forumite Name (2013)
Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 12:38 pm
Posts: 9752
Location: In the shadow of Table Mountain
FAC Member (2012)
It is different evert day, so the same road can bring differing results and drama!

_________________
Whatever (according to BB): "You are correct but I don't want to admit it".


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Road from Twee rivieren to Nossob.
Unread postPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 2:57 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2010 12:37 pm
Posts: 46
Location: Stadirano/Italy
Good afternoon.
On next december I will be in Kgalagadi for 20 days. Do you know if I can reach Nossob from Twee Rivieren, passing through Leeuwdrill and Rooiputs waterholes with a sedan car? Until end of 2011 was possible only with 4x4 car passing through deviation in Rooiputs.
Thanks for your reply.
Bye.
Luca/Italy.

_________________
There is no dark side in the moon, really. Matter of fact, it's all dark


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Road from Twee rivieren to Nossob.
Unread postPosted: Sun May 27, 2012 5:26 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Mar 24, 2008 7:17 pm
Posts: 109
Location: Lonehill, Sandton RSA
The deviation is still in place, the road is not in a good condition. You could probably make it with your 2x4, but the road works are on-going, lots of corrugations, and there seems to be less game along this route. I would suggest that you go up via the Auob road (MataMata road) - and then take the top dune road. It is in fact shorter than going up the Nossob river bed. We used that dune road coming back from Nossob, and it was in excellent condition - we saw lion, leopard, lots of game at the 3 water holes along the way, so it is not really a hardship going that way.

_________________
Lonehill_Birders


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Mabuasehube - Kaa Trail
Unread postPosted: Mon May 28, 2012 10:25 pm 
Offline
Virtual Ranger
Virtual Ranger
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:28 pm
Posts: 566
Location: Grahamstown
I am in the throws of booking our trip for April next year. I will need to get from Mabua Pan to Kaa Gate on the shortest route possible. T4A lists a route called Mabua - Kaa trail. Can anybody help me here - need advice, does it exist, can you drive it alone, can you pull a trailer etc. The other option is to take the cutline. Can this be reached by heading due north from Mabua Pan or do you need to go back to the Mabua East Gate?
Is it possible to do either of these routes in one day? What is the approx distance?

I would appreciate help and advice from fellow forimites.

_________________
WE ALL HAVE TWO CHOICES : We can make a living or we can design a life

29/12/14 - 05/1/15 MZNP
02-07/4/15 Addo
26/6 - 5/7/15 MZNP
4 - 7/8/15 Richtersveld NP
17 - 26/8/15 Kgalagadi NP


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Kalahari Tented Camp to Gharagab?
Unread postPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:02 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:01 pm
Posts: 17
I will be visiting KTP for the first time shortly and was wondering it if is reasonable to do Kalahari TC to Gharagab in one day?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kalahari Tented Camp to Gharagab?
Unread postPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 7:28 am 
Offline
Forum Assistant
Forum Assistant
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:03 pm
Posts: 11576
Location: Upington RSA
FAC Member (2012)
Hi Berkhead,

Assuming that shortly means June or July, you'll have 10 and a half hours travel time per day.

From KTC up to the turn off towards Gharagab is about 300 km. which at 30 km per hour is already 10 hours.

That last part on the entrance road to the camp you'll need at least 2 hours.

Then you'll need some time at Nossob to book in.

This might be doable..............BUT then you'll have to travel at 45km per hour and have no stops at all except for Nossob......... :hmz:

In the summer it's a different story and we've done it from TR to Garagab in a day with hours to spare.......... :)

_________________
You only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough - Mae West


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Mabuasehube - Kaa Trail
Unread postPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 8:18 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:27 pm
Posts: 33
Hi
The best would be to go out Mabua Gate on the Eastern side, turn North for 25km till the corner of the park, turn West and follow the road for 32km. It will turn North-West, follow this road for 134km to Kaa. I believe this would be the best route. I Haven't done this all the way myself but I read some trip reports where the travelers had some very good sightings. The road through the park, past Nossob to Kaa is not do-able in one day. Can someone who did the whole route please confirm. I did drive some of it alone with a trailer, but you need a proper 4x4 and trailer. The road through the park is more challenging with a trailer than the cut-line i proposed.
Greetings


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kalahari Tented Camp to Gharagab?
Unread postPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:16 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:05 pm
Posts: 67
Location: Pretoria
I agree with Lion Queen. I havent been to Gharagab yet, but on my special spreadsheet planning, and knowledge of gate times and distances, etc, winter will be a serious hard drive to be on time. Would then suggest you stay two nights at Gharagab to experience it in full!

_________________
13th Trip to KTP - Dec '12 / Jan '13

FIRST TRIP TO KTP WAS IN JUNE/JULY 1996!

http://www.sanparks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?style=2&f=27&t=61629


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kalahari Tented Camp to Gharagab?
Unread postPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:29 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2008 12:01 pm
Posts: 17
Thanks for the advice. Think i will change the booking as i hate rushing to make a gate time


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Kalahari Tented Camp to Gharagab?
Unread postPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:38 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Apr 24, 2012 2:05 pm
Posts: 67
Location: Pretoria
Book a evening at Nossob prior to Gharagab!

_________________
13th Trip to KTP - Dec '12 / Jan '13

FIRST TRIP TO KTP WAS IN JUNE/JULY 1996!

http://www.sanparks.org/forums/viewtopic.php?style=2&f=27&t=61629


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 605 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39 ... 41  Next



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group

Webcams Highlights

Addo Nossob Orpen Satara
Addo Nossob Orpen Satara
Submitted by kyknetta at 19:07:34 Submitted by kyknetta at 21:49:01 Submitted by Mrs. S.K.L.Gauntlett at 15:56:37 Submitted by Shiba at 04:30:29