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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi,
I have some really fuzzy pics of raptors taken on the gravel road from Rhenosterkop in Agulhas NP to Struisbaai but I'm hoping the experts can help with an ID. The flight pics are of two different birds but are they the same species? I'm thinking kackal buzzard but I'm not sure.
I do apologise for the poor pics but holding thumbs anyway.
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Buglette wrote:
Hi,
I have some really fuzzy pics of raptors taken on the gravel road from Rhenosterkop in Agulhas NP to Struisbaai but I'm hoping the experts can help with an ID. The flight pics are of two different birds but are they the same species? I'm thinking kackal buzzard but I'm not sure.
I do apologise for the poor pics but holding thumbs anyway.
Thanks.


Yes, the bird is undeniably a Jackal Buzzard - and very nice white-breasted morph no less. These white-breasted morphs are not a separate subspecies but they are more common down south where you saw this bird.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Jackal buzzards are not uncommon in the Western/Southern Cape, and are given away by the underwing markings in flight. Like in your pics, Buglette!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thanks so much Deefstes and Bush Baptist!
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The white breast had me confused because my bird book pics didn't show that much white. Now I know it's a morph - thanks!

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Would appreciate help to ID this raptor.

We saw him in MZNP while we were there this weekend.

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Hi Sharifa,
It could be a young Booted Eagle :hmz:

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Just looking at the legs, it appears that the ankles, and possibly the rest of the leg (hidden) are naked. Normally the boot extends all the way down to the feet in the aquila eagles, which would possibly rule out booted. Have you considered one of the buzzards? Step or perhaps a young Jackal... Do have any pictures of the front of the bird to get a better ID.


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Tell tale signs of a Booted Eagle is missing here lacking the distinct shoulder patches and like Adrian said, the feather's running down the leg.

My opinion is that it is a Juvenile Jackal Buzzard.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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adrianp wrote:
Step or perhaps a young Jackal... Do have any pictures of the front of the bird to get a better ID.


Sorry adrianp, just the one photo, unfortunately :(


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Could it possibly be a juvenile harrier?


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Sharifa wrote:
Could it possibly be a juvenile harrier?


The overall bulkiness of the bird is more buzzard like than harrier. The body shape of a bird helps to put it intothe correct family group. With raptors, particularly juveniles, colour can be very variable and thus unreliable.

When was this picture taken? Winter would exclude a steppe buzzard.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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adrianp wrote:
When was this picture taken? Winter would exclude a steppe buzzard.


The photo was taken on the 28th April 2012. Hope that helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Probably a bit late in the year then for Steppe which is a summer migrant.

What worries me a bit about the ID of Jackal Buzzard is the whiteness of the under feathers. It is not impossible for a juvl Jackal Buzzard to have this, but it is normally more brown in colour.

I am trying to find some pictures of this to show you, but am struggling a bit now.


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Sharifa wrote:
Would appreciate help to ID this raptor.

We saw him in MZNP while we were there this weekend.

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Lionspoon wrote:
Later we found a jackal buzzard quite close to the road:

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Reading Lionspoon's report thought it looked similar. (from a complete bird novice)

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 Post subject: Re: Identification Help - Raptors
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Thats what it looks like from what everybody is saying.

Thanks RichardJ and adrianp :thumbs_up:


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